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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Clark via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] ccp struggles<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 10:33 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmaildefault><i><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>>>… </span></i></span><i>The second amendment is about the militia, not about defending homes, farms, hunting, crime, any of that.</i><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>>…Then the second amendment isn't about much…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>On the contrary. It is because we have second amendment rights that we still have rights.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>>… The only real militias are the National Guard and the Navy militia…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>On the contrary. Read the legal definition of militia, 10US code 246, b.2. unorganized militia. If you dispute the US legal code, your disagreement isn’t with me, it is with the legal system of the US.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:15.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0in;background:white'><span style='font-size:27.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333'>10 U.S. Code § 246.Militia: composition and classes<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-bottom:solid #F3565D 3.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;background:white;margin-left:-.25in;margin-right:1.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white;border:none;padding:0in'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#333333'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333'><a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/246#tab_default_1"><span style='color:#0068AC;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:white'>U.S. Code</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-right:1.5pt;margin-left:0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#333333'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333'><a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/246#tab_default_2"><span style='color:#0068AC;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in'>Notes</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right;background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333'>prev | <a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/247"><span style='color:#0068AC'>next</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:12.0pt;background:white'><a name=a></a><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333'>(a)</span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333'>The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in <a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/32/313"><span style='color:#0068AC'>section 313 of title 32</span></a>, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:12.0pt;background:white'><a name=b></a><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333'>(b)</span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333'>The classes of the militia are—<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:24.0pt;background:white'><a name="b_1"></a><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333'>(1)</span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:24.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333'>the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:24.0pt;background:white'><a name="b_2"></a><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333'>(2)</span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:24.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333'>the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>>… the others are just a gaggle of white supremacist…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>John are you resorting to racism now? The others are every race in the USA between the ages of 17 and 45.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>>…nut jobs…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>John you are the one arguing we don’t need a second amendment, not those you label as nut jobs.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>>…marching around…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>The militias do not march.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>>…and pretending to be soldiers…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>Nor do they pretend to be soldiers.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>>…just because some jerkwater politician writes a law that says every male between 17 and 45 is a member of a militia does not make that a reality…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>That makes it the law. If you disagree with it, an option is to run for office and work to change the law. Until then, it is the law.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>John I do urge to stick the topics on which you have actual demonstrated knowledge.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>spike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>