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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stathis Papaioannou via extropy-chat<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 16, 2020 5:26 PM<br><b>To:</b> ExI chat list <extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org><br><b>Cc:</b> Stathis Papaioannou <stathisp@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] More deaths from COVID-19 than Afghanistan and Iraq wars combined<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 at 10:16, spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>>…Why not give everyone access to the virus under the right to bear arms?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>-- <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Stathis Papaioannou<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Give? Everyone already HAS access to the virus, way more than we want. What are you suggesting we give anyone?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>>…The legal right to use whatever weapons you might feel you need to protect yourself. A rifle will not deter the Government from arresting you if you disagree with them, but weapons of mass destruction might. <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Stathis Papaioannou<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Stathis, this is a weird tangent about police. The militia isn’t about the police or fighting the army or any of that. That isn’t what the second amendment is about. The police, the militia and the army are all allies. We are all on the same side: protecting the security of the free state. We are not rednecks or stupid. We aren’t from any particular state. We are all beneath the contempt of some, but no worries, we are here to protect them as well.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The army and law enforcement are professionals. The militia is citizen volunteers. In the scenario where the militia is necessary to the security of a free state, there is no army or police, for the government cannot pay them. If the government cannot pay the police, they go into other professions.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I notice a common notion among those who do not believe that a militia is necessary to the security of the free state: they cannot fathom a situation where the government cannot pay the soldiers and police. They cannot understand how a government would not be able to pay. That isn’t the least bit difficult for me to imagine, and hasn’t been for decades. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Now it must be far easier to envision. What if… we try to re-open the economy, but every time we do, there is a massive new outbreak, resulting in a new lockdown? And what if that continues? For months? What if longer than that? Then businesses fail in unison. Tax revenues dwindle to nearly nothing. Is that difficult to imagine?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>In that scenario, the militia would defend against those who would use weapons of mass destruction such as a virus.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Please, what part of that horrifying scenario is hard to envision?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>spike<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>