<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">In the case of murder, in most cases there is nothing rational to be done. Unless we are talking about gang murders, most murders are within family. OK, so put them in jail. Let them out and see what happens. Extremely low recividism rate for that type of murder. You accomplish nothing by a prison term. They knew it was wrong. They will never do it again. Why pay $30K a year to keep them in prison when nothing good comes out of it? Yeah, they get away with it, and that might encourage others to do the same, expecting no punishment. We have here is MS a lot of killings in prison whether from gangs or who knows. What to do with them?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">For rapists: nonremovable patches of female hormones, taking the sex drive down to zero - chemical castration.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">For burglars: State jobs while they learn a trade. On parole, with jail if they break it. Some money to go to those burgled. Ankle bracelets for GPS</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">For white collar crime,like losing trillions of dollars : the stocks, so people can come by and spit on them. Certainly no comfy prison. PUt them in with the black gangs and see how the word spreads about white collar crime. This is certainly the class of crime that needs the most attention.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 1:27 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 10:57 AM Dan TheBookMan via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><div>Agreed. And let’s consider abolishing prisons too:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://c4ss.org/content/30340" target="_blank">https://c4ss.org/content/30340</a></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That link kept teasing but didn't actually answer the question, "And replace them with what?" So, if you're promoting that point of view, I ask that question of you.</div><div><br></div><div>Let us say there is an individual who routinely burgles houses for a living. What is to be done to make said individual stop doing this? The court and penal system is presented as a preferred alternative to aggrieved people lynching and executing a suspected or alleged burglar.</div><div><br></div><div>How shall we deter murder - especially deliberate assassination by private individuals accountable to no one or almost no one?</div><div><br></div><div>What is to be done about rapists?</div><div><br></div><div>And that's just some of the basic types of crime. Drugs might be decriminalized, hate crimes might result in counseling (or lead to an assessment of mental disorders), but these measures by themselves are a far cry from abolishing all prisons.</div></div></div>
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