<div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 01:12, spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_4556445988251627147WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stathis Papaioannou via extropy-chat<br><br><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Criminals aren’t allowed to have guns. They gave up that right when they became criminals.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">If the police are not deterred by criminals with guns why would they be deterred by citizens who don’t believe themselves to be criminals (because they think the laws they are breaking are unconstitutional) with guns?<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">-- <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Stathis Papaioannou<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Several things are wrong with the premise. Police are deterred by criminals with guns, which is why they face so much danger when they must go into areas where guns are illegal: it is very dangerous there. Their risk of being shot is very high. Example: south Chicago.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">If police are asked to disarm citizens who have not committed a crime, many or most would likely refuse: that job is too dangerous.</p></div></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><span>If the police honestly thought they were being ordered to take illegal action hopefully they would refuse on principle. </span>The problem you raised is when the police think the citizens are criminals but the citizens have a different opinion. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_4556445988251627147WordSection1"><div><p class="MsoNormal"></p></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Stathis Papaioannou</div>