<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 10:56 AM John Clark via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 9:51 AM Dylan Distasio via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</span><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>How are you defining mass death? </i></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">How are you defining "define"? I think the leading cause of death is pretty massive but that's just me.</font></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span><i>The numbers, while tragic, are still within the range of a bad flu</i></div></blockquote><div><br></div><font size="4">If it's the leading cause of death in the USA then it's a bad flu indeed!</font></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>There's a new bug, it's killing almost entirely well defined high risk populations. The IFR is likely way lower than originally thought. This is not the black death or small pox. Again, I'm not attempting to trivialize anyone's personal loss, but decisions need to be made for the entire population here.</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>and growth is slowing</span></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"></font><font size="4">And in 1918 things started to get bad in March but started to get better in late April and by summer it was almost gone, but not quite. It came back far stronger than before in early September and it was the next 3 months when the real mega death happened. I'm not saying the same thing is going to happen in 2020 but I don't want to bet my life that it won't. It sounds to me like you want to play Russian Roulette.</font></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>Sweden seems the only sane nation to me right now.</i></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"></font><font size="4">And the result of all that sanity is that Sweden has had far more deaths from COVID-19 than any of its scandinavian neighbors that insanely took the quarantine very seriously. In Sweden 1580 have died, In Denmark 364 have died, in Norway 168, and in Finland just 94. If insanity works better than sanity I'll take insanity.</font></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>1,580 people have died, and their economy for the most part is still open. They're recommending common sense social distancing. If that's Russian Roulette, yes, I'd like to play Russian Roulette. What is your end game here, John, if you were running the show? There is a real possibility that there will not be an effective vaccine developed for this. So then what, we're going to live like scared animals for the rest of our lives until the economy completely implodes, and you end up potentially getting killed by someone in the societal breakdown? All over an illness that probably has a maximum IFR of 1% (and BTW, I think it's closer to .3% but I will give you 1% for the sake of argument)? Please do tell, what should we be doing here?</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
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