<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 7:56 AM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</span><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>That's my answer if anyone ever asks me what the meaning of life is. You Decide.</i></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4">I agree good answer. You and I are the ones in the meaning conferring business not the external universe. A cloud of hydrogen gas ten billion light years away can't give us meaning but we can give meaning to it. I don't need God or anything else to pat me on the head and give me His seal of approval. </font><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><i>
<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>I would take issue with the idea that atheism can be right or wrong.
</i></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">God either exists or He does not.</font></div></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><i> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>It's not asserting anything, it's just a lack of belief.</i></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">And one can be absolutely positively 100% certain about something and still be dead wrong; for example the 88 virgins (or was it 77?) the 911 hijackers were supposed to get in the afterlife. </font></div></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>I thoroughly recommend actually reading the bible (and the
koran, etc.),</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">I also think people should actually read the bible because it's a great advertisement for atheism, as <span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Richard Dawkins said:</span></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><font size="4"><i>“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”</i></font><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>Even if gods exist, they are just another
kind of being. What makes our actions meaningful if they exist, but
not if they don't?</i></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">Beats me. And even if God does exist He must be asking Himself "what is my purpose?" and "why have I always existed, why haven't I always not existed?".</font></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">><i> </i></span><i>It sounds kind of stupid when you think about it.<br></i></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">Yep.</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">John K Clark</font></div></div></div>