<div dir="auto">You've decided what is silly and you act like you're making objective claims. This is how you, John, argue: you state a silly claim that nobody here is ever making, and then you attack it and somehow feel good about yourself for destroying a straw man.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I don't believe it's silly to believe that consciousness is universal. In fact, as a materialist, I think it is patently stupid to believe consciousness for some reason stops at the brain--a silly, 1700s, vitalist view--as opposed to believing that computation and information exchange are everywhere and thus consciousness is to (to considerably simplify my argument.)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In fact, I believe you actually AGREE with me, but for some reason you are arguing against a stupid idea of God that nobody here even cares about.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">For other unrelated bullshit to dredge up, how about those damn Hawaiian natives and their stupid gods? Eh? Is that bait tempting enough?</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 22, 2020, 11:37 John Clark via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:01 AM Giulio Prisco via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</span><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>The religion of atheism claims to have the important fact, established without doubt, that an omnipotent omniscient being who created the universe doesn't exist.</i></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="4"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Perhaps </font>it does<font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"> say that but I really couldn't say because I don't know anything about the </font>religion of atheism. All I know is the scientific method never says something has been established beyond all doubt, although on occasion it does say some things are too silly to talk about. </font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="4"> John K Clark</font></div>
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