<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">to wonder how evolution shaped humans to believe in gods.</span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"> Does anyone offer a service </span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">that promises to do a data cemetery, where information is preserved for</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">eternity?</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">spike</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">I have been wondering the same thing. Parts of my brain have been stored in Gmail, Facebook, Quora and so on. How long are they going to keep these things on the servers? These are in a sense mines my offspring (what is an onspring? Is that what happens when tiger notices you?) can access to find out just what I was like, if they care to. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small">bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 10:17 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
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From: extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>> On Behalf Of Ben<br>
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Cc: Ben Zaiboc <<a href="mailto:ben@zaiboc.net" target="_blank">ben@zaiboc.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [ExI] ants again<br>
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On 23/04/2020 00:18, Spike wrote:<br>
>>... Ben your notion of defining the term entomology leads directly to hard<br>
<br>
> freezing, grinding to gravel and feeding corpses to ants... I'll be rich,<br>
you can be famous.<br>
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>...Spike... I hereby relinquish any and all claim to it...If you can figure<br>
out how to (and actually achieve) a way to make cubic buttloads of money<br>
from these crazy ideas, you have my blessing. <br>
Attribution not required...<br>
<br>
Crazy? Whaddya mean crazy? They thought Bill Gates was crazy for buying<br>
DOS! They thought Carly Fiorina was crazy for buying... oh wait never mind,<br>
back up. They thought Bill Gates was crazy. They thought Howard Hughes was<br>
cr... emmm... Gates! He wasn't crazy at all.<br>
<br>
>...I actually think the fossilisation idea might have some potential,<br>
though. I reckon there will be folks willing to pay for a service that<br>
literally fossilises them after death (how cool would it be to be up there<br>
with T-Rex, H. Floresiensis and Carcharodon Megalodon?!)...<br>
<br>
Ja it would be more like ants fossilized in amber. You can see them in<br>
there, perfectly preserved, inside a resin that hardened to a rock:<br>
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<a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=fossils+in+amber&sxsrf=ALeKk02qzErOAPwihCforlvOSxoRiOOhlA:1587653578780&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi6p9u85v7oAhXGl54KHZA1A-8Q_AUoAXoECA0QAw&biw=1329&bih=929" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/search?q=fossils+in+amber&sxsrf=ALeKk02qzErOAPwihCfor<br>
lvOSxoRiOOhlA:1587653578780&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi6p9u85v7oA<br>
hXGl54KHZA1A-8Q_AUoAXoECA0QAw&biw=1329&bih=929</a><br>
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>...The problem is we don't know how to do it other than marinading<br>
someone's body in the appropriate chemical environment for millions of<br>
years. But, you could offer to do just that. Nobody is going to sue you if<br>
it doesn't work...-- Ben Zaiboc<br>
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Ja I suppose you could soak the client in formaldehyde beforehand (not<br>
amino-stabilized laboratory formaldehyde but rather the intentionally<br>
volatile methanal (CH2O which vaporizes at around -19C)) soak for a coupla<br>
days, take her out and into a refrigerator, let the volatile formaldehyde<br>
boil off slowly so it doesn't discolor the skin (temporarily storing a<br>
headless corpse inside a refrigerator opens up a whole new class of possible<br>
practical jokes), formaldehyde boils off, coffin-shaped box of clear-epoxy<br>
resin, in goes the enhanced body and the younger better-looking head, along<br>
with a plate with clever sayings and an eternal website offering information<br>
about what a fun person this was (the body, not the head.)<br>
<br>
But of course, this whole notion leads to a better idea, which someone<br>
somewhere has probably already done: eternal websites. <br>
<br>
Suppose I want to write about what a great guy I was, how fun, imaginative,<br>
humble and all that, then put it on a website, then have that URL carved<br>
into my gravestone where the rest of me would be disposed of should my epoxy<br>
resin notion and my ant-food notion both fail. Does anyone offer a service<br>
that promises to do a data cemetery, where information is preserved for<br>
eternity?<br>
<br>
Where?<br>
<br>
Couldn't we make buttload on that?<br>
<br>
spike<br>
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