<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">I am getting tired of seeing this “it’s just a bad flu” meme/talking point on social media and seemingly supported by Dylan, Rafal, and Zoltan. I work in healthcare and keep hearing how we’ve never seen anything like this, how frontline staff are tired from working so much and going non stop at high intensity. Did anyone see 60 Minutes last week? It’s reported on their page here in addition to the video <a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-new-york-city-deaths-60-minutes-2020-04-19/">https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-new-york-city-deaths-60-minutes-2020-04-19/</a> on how freezer trucks are needed for bodies in NYC and how mass graves are being dug for non claimed bodies? Also, did anyone see the news today about it seems to be causing stokes and not just in older folks. <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/24/strokes-coronavirus-young-patients/">https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/24/strokes-coronavirus-young-patients/ </a> The doc talks about how he watched clots forming in real time as he was doing the procedure to remove one. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I do get that it’s not deadly for the most part and that that risk increases with age and if one has cooccurring illnesses. According to this <a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3357941/">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3357941/ </a> <span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "open sans", helvetica, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">seasonal flu typically </span><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3357941/" style="color: rgb(0, 86, 137); text-decoration: none; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(220, 220, 220); font-family: "open sans", helvetica, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;">kills 0.1 percent of patients</a><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "open sans", helvetica, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">. </span>That Post article has data on death rates: “In the vast majority of younger adults, covid-19 appears to result in mild illness with the risk of more severe consequences rising with every decade of age. According to Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data, 0.8 percent of U.S. deaths as of Apr. 18 were in people ages 25 to 34; 2 percent among those 35 to 44; and 5.4 percent among those 45 to 54.” That 5.4 percent for 45-54s does startle me as one of them. I don’t feel that concern regarding the flu. Also I think there is underreporting of deaths caused by covid-19 like in those stoke cases and people not tested at death.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-Henry</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Apr 25, 2020, at 11:14 AM, John Clark via extropy-chat <extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font size="4">Yesterday, a very long time ago in the world of viruses, I said:</font><div><font size="4"><br></font><div class="gmail_quote"><span style="font-size:large"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">"</span>I don't know that new cases have peaked. Yesterday April 23 31,900 more Americans got sick from Covid-19, on April 19 only 26,183 did, you'd have to go back to April 17 to find a larger number and even then it was only slightly larger.<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">"</span> </span></div><div class="gmail_quote"><span style="font-size:large"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_quote"><span style="font-size:large"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span></span><font size="4">And today one day later we know for sure that new cases have NOT peaked. On Friday April 24 38,958 more Americans got sick from Covid-19, and that is the largest number ever by a considerable margin.</font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">John K Clark</span></font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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