<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 4:45 AM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</span><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>I see nature as our implacable enemy, to be constantly striven against.</i></blockquote><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">I agree, nature is trying to kill me.</font></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>Nature<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span>(especially biology, and evolution in particular) is like an abusive<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span>parent, in my view. </i></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font size="4"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Yes. If </font>a omnipotent<font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"> God exists but He chose Evolution as the way to produce complex things like me and you then He can not be benevolent. So the </font>Bible Thumpers are right, Christianity and Darwin are not compatible. </font></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>our only choice is to master<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span>it. The way to do that is to learn as much about it as we can, and with<br></i><i>that knowledge, build tools to overcome it.</i></blockquote><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><font size="4">Martin Mull summed up my philosophy in 1978, he made it clear that he didn't want to sit at God's right hand, he didn't even want to be God's son, he wanted to be God. Start 4 min 20 sec in:</font><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiH2HbjfzNs"><font size="4">I WANT TO BE GOD</font></a><br></font><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">John K Clark</font></div>
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