<div dir="ltr">This.<div><br></div><div>A lot of Trump's "base" knows he is, by historical standards, largely unqualified to be President and, by most standards, a terrible person on top of that, but see the utilitarian calculus as so stark that, if he can make a meaningful dent in the US's abortion rates [as he seems on track to do], as well as not start a major war, /literally/ nothing else he does matters.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 9:40 AM Dylan Distasio via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I don't have an interest in getting too deep down this rabbit hole, but I do agree that in general Trump is not really a classical Republican, let alone right wing on many issues. That said, I can give you an easy answer on why he is tolerated by SOME real conservatives. He has appointed a ton of judges including SCOTUS ones, and has consistently sided with conservatives on the issues of abortion and religion. This is enough for a lot of them under the circumstances. Trump's actual base is a lot more complicated to pin down tough. <div><br></div><div>In terms of spending, both parties are now very similar and have been for a very long time.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 11:28 AM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span style="font-size:14pt">He knows how to appeal to right wingers. I don’t see anything a bit right wing about how the US government is running. Do you?<font color="#888888"><u></u><u></u></font></span></p><font color="#888888"><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14pt">spike</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14pt"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><b>Well now there's an interesting question. Let's lay aside the issue of money and debt for the nonce. If it's not right wing, it's either left wing or a combination. Which is it? What has come out of <a href="http://D.C.in" target="_blank">D.C.in</a> the last couple of years that we can point to and say conservative, or liberal? Trump's base is red, so what's red that he has done or Congress has done? If Spike is right, then the red base hasn't gotten what it wanted and should be unhappy with T.</b></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><b><br></b></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><b>bill w</b></font></span></p></font></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 9:46 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal">> <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Clark via extropy-chat<br><br><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span><i><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">> </span></i></span><i>They don’t. That is a cartoon version of rightists. Your video was a politician clowning. The guy in the picture isn’t a right-winger by far. </i><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">>…Then why was the political clown performing his antics at the <b>Conservative </b>Political Action Conference? And why were the <b>conservative</b> clowns in the audience cheering mindlessly at the buffoonish politician?</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt"> John K Clark<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">He knows how to appeal to right wingers. I don’t see anything a bit right wing about how the US government is running. Do you?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">spike<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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