<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>“Being Jewish”</div><div><br></div>So there is ethnically Jewish (your mother or grandmother must be Jewish), and there are the rules under Law of Return which state that your Father or Grandfather should be Jewish. That is “religiously Jewish”.<div><br></div><div>The thinking here (I assume) is that, due to a number of factors, many Jewish women “marry out”. Among them: </div><div><br></div><div>- Women are usually expected to marry a man about 4 years older than herself. The genders are largely symmetrical at the same age (20 vs. 20) but due to the high birthrate, each age cohort is bigger than the last, meaning there are more 20 year old women than 24 year old men. </div><div><br></div><div>- Statistically, more women tend to be religious than men. So due to attrition, there will be less men in the same age group (20 vs 20)</div><div><br></div><div>- Due to high demands for available men, dowries have become quite high. Simply put, some Jewish families cannot save enough money for their daughters to get married to a good man. </div><div><br></div><div>So the thinking here is, they want the entire Jewish family. The assumption is Jewish men will only marry Jewish women, but Jewish women might not marry Jewish men.</div><div><br><div dir="ltr">SR Ballard</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On May 5, 2020, at 4:51 PM, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">I am ethnically Jewish but the last practicing member in my family was my Great-grandfather so I missed it by a generation. It must be your father or grandfather. SR</span><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">According to what I read, if you don't have a Jewish mother, you are not Jewish. Mother rather than father for obvious reasons.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">bill w</span></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 3:13 PM SR Ballard via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2">Like I’ve said before, if EVERY country is in debt (and they all do seem to be), then who owns all that debt? </font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2">What effect would debt simplification have on the overall picture? </font></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://feedback.splitwise.com/knowledgebase/articles/107220-what-does-the-simplify-debts-setting-do" target="_blank">http://feedback.splitwise.com/knowledgebase/articles/107220-what-does-the-simplify-debts-setting-do</a></div><div><br></div><div>In the example above, overall debt was reduced 50%.</div><div><span style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small">> holding the bag - spike</span></div><div><span style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small">Technically, no one ever has to hold the bag because you can:</span></div><div><span style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small">(1) Default</span></div><div><span style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small">(2) New country/government</span></div><div><span style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small">(3) Inflation (“Money printer goes brrrrr”)</span></div><span style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small"><div><span style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></span></div>> Americans will move elsewhere -</span> <span style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small">bill w</span><div><span style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small">How? </span></div><div><span style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small">Degrees?</span></div><div><span style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></span></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2">Only about 35% of Americans have bachelor’s degrees. For most countries thats the absolute minimum to come as general skilled labor. </font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2">This allows you, at the least, to become an English teacher in many parts of the world. </font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2">Religion? (Right of Return)</font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2">There is perhaps a population of as many as 5 million Jews in the US, but the majority likely do not qualify. </font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2">I am ethnically Jewish but the last practicing member in my family was my Great-grandfather so I missed it by a generation. It must be your father or grandfather.</font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2">You must also be sufficiently orthodox. Members of reform and restorationist belief do not qualify. You could theoretically convert.</font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2">Military?</font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2">By fighting in foreign military, it is possible to get citizenship. 2 years in the IDF (though you might have to convert), 3 in the FFL, 3 years Russian army. If you are in US military, NZ (I think). </font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2">Ancestry?</font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2">Many countries will consider ancestry based requests based on parents and grandparents, but only a few further than that.</font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2">Other skills?</font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2">IT, with enough experience, a degree might not be required.</font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2">So all-in-all, many Americans don’t really have anywhere else to move. Myself for example, and the US in general.</font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2">Degree: no. I’d need 4 years and student loans. 65% of Americans don't have them. So now 35% can leave.</font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2">Religion: no. Unless absolutely necessary, and if already married, would I even consider converting. And that would still require 2-3 years. Likely less than 1% of Americans would qualify. A good number of whom have college degrees, the average US Jew has 14.7 years of education, with about 75% having college degrees. Now we’re at 35.5%!</font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2">Military: My fiancé and I are not “draftable” in the US anymore but it should be possible to still join the military until at least 30. The issue? Like most Americans, I am too fat!</font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2">Approx number of US men and women between 19 and 35: 66 million. The percent that are obese (too fat for the military)? 40% So that leaves us with about 40 million souls. About 35% of those were already counted as college graduates. Now we have about 26 million. Thats about 8%. Now about 43% can leave! </font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2">Ancestry: My maternal grandfather, his grandparents were German. Nope! My Maternal grandmother, her parents were Russian/Belarusian and Irish-American. Nope. My Paternal Grandfather is Boston white-bread, and his wife was Peruvian. But it has to be your parent. Oops. I can’t</font><span style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small"> use that. </span></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2">Percent of Americans with at least one foreign parent? Well, there are some 20 million of them (6%). They have an average college graduation rate. So now about 4%. The other variables I cant account for. </font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2"><br></font></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2">Less than 50% of Americans can leave. Through sustained religious conversion or massive debt, the other half could maybe leave in about 3-4 years. But Israel won’t accept 150 million new citizens. No one needs that many English teachers, and not that many Americans speak foreign languages. </font></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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