<div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>And if we'd stop being 'qualia blind', we could discover what it is, in our brain, that has an intrinsic redness quality, finally filling this gap in our understanding of perception of color.  This would once and for all easily falsify all these crap in the gap theories.</div><div><br></div><div>Let me know if our new socratic method test asking: "<a href="https://qualia.insite21.com/">Are you Qualia Blind</a>"  helps with understanding what qualia blindness is.</div><div><br></div><div>Brent</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 7:23 AM Brent Allsop <<a href="mailto:brent.allsop@gmail.com">brent.allsop@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I believe
you forgot the core of all the falsifiable “crap in the gap” theories of consciousness:</p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Example of
right-wing anti-science:</p>

<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:107%;font-family:Symbol">·<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">       "</span></span>Qualia prove I have a ghost/spirit."</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Example of
left-wing anti-science:</p>

<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:107%;font-family:Symbol">·<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">       "</span></span>We don’t have qualia, it only seems like we do"  or "There is a 'hard mind body' problem."</p></div></div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </p></div><div>Brent</div><div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 1:50 PM William Flynn Wallace <<a href="mailto:foozler83@gmail.com" target="_blank">foozler83@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><p style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:q_serif,Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman","Hiragino Kaku Gothic Pro",Meiryo,serif;font-size:15px;margin:0px 0px 1em;padding:0px;direction:ltr"><br>Examples of right-wing anti-science:</p><ol style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:q_serif,Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman","Hiragino Kaku Gothic Pro",Meiryo,serif;font-size:15px;margin:0px 2em 1em 0px;padding:0px;list-style-position:initial"><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2em;padding:0px 0px 0.7em">Creationism.</li><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2em;padding:0px 0px 0.7em">Global warming denialism.</li><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2em;padding:0px 0px 0.7em">Anti-environmentalism generally.</li><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2em;padding:0px 0px 0.7em">Exaggerated claims about fetal development.</li><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2em;padding:0px 0px 0.7em">Rejection of epidemiology as it pertains to sex, pregnancy, and sexually transmitted disease.</li><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2em;padding:0px 0px 0.7em">Rejection of genetics, neurology, and psychology as they pertain to sex and gender.</li><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2em;padding:0px 0px 0.7em">Pseudo-biological justifications for racism and sexism.</li><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2em;padding:0px">Supply-side economics, if you count economics as a science. That’s a whole ‘nother discussion.</li></ol><p style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:q_serif,Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman","Hiragino Kaku Gothic Pro",Meiryo,serif;font-size:15px;margin:0px 0px 1em;padding:0px;direction:ltr">Examples of left-wing anti-science:</p><ol style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:q_serif,Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman","Hiragino Kaku Gothic Pro",Meiryo,serif;font-size:15px;margin:0px 2em 1em 0px;padding:0px;list-style-position:initial"><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2em;padding:0px 0px 0.7em">Anti-GMO hysteria.</li><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2em;padding:0px 0px 0.7em">Opposition to nuclear power under any and all circumstances.</li><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2em;padding:0px 0px 0.7em">Other extremes of environmentalism, with predictions of immediate doom rather than slow long-term change.</li><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2em;padding:0px">Opposition to space exploration: “why are we spending money up there when people are starving down here?”</li></ol><p style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:q_serif,Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman","Hiragino Kaku Gothic Pro",Meiryo,serif;font-size:15px;margin:0px 0px 1em;padding:0px;direction:ltr">Examples of anti-science shared by both left and right:</p><ol style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:q_serif,Georgia,Times,"Times New Roman","Hiragino Kaku Gothic Pro",Meiryo,serif;font-size:15px;margin:0px 2em 1em 0px;padding:0px;list-style-position:initial"><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2em;padding:0px 0px 0.7em">Antivax. Started as a left-wing mania, and still more common in liberal communities, but some of the most prominent advocates are right-wing politicians, e.g. Kentucky Governor Matt Bevin.</li><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2em;padding:0px 0px 0.7em">Abuse of statistics regarding crime issues, especially gun control. Left- and right-wingers draw opposite conclusions from the same data, and they both go to absurd extremes. Principled statisticians are left crying in the wilderness.</li><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2em;padding:0px 0px 0.7em">Suspicion of the enterprise of science: the idea that there are giant cabals of scientists working in secret with no oversight and “playing God” or uncovering “things we weren’t meant to know.”</li><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2em;padding:0px">Closely related, the common cultural stereotypes of scientists as arrogant, aloof, and out of touch with the lives of “regular people.”</li></ol><div><font color="#333333" face="q_serif, Georgia, Times, Times New Roman, Hiragino Kaku Gothic Pro, Meiryo, serif"><span style="font-size:15px">bill w</span></font></div></div></div>
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