<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">I wonder how the French felt about 1800, when they had trashed mansions. beheaded the aristocracy and so on. Were they happy then? I suspect not. There were by a large margin not enough gilt mirrors to go around to the poor. bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 1:20 PM Darin Sunley via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">A huge amount of American grassroots political rhetoric makes enormously more sense when you realize that a significant number of lower-income Americans actually genuinely believe that the billionaire class, collectively, has enough money to give American citizen tens of thousands of dollars, and possibly not even miss it.<div><br></div><div>This was made obvious a few months ago when a newscaster overestimated Bloomberg's campaign spending (or underestimated the American population, or both) by 2 or 3 orders of magnitude, and it went unnoticed by the overwhelming majority of the media class, and their audience.</div><div><br></div><div>If you genuinely believe that, then yes, it follows without a lot of mental gymnastics that the giga-rich /actually are/ reptilians in human skin [or may as well be] playing games with the lives of billions for profit and perverted fun.</div><div><br></div><div>Innumeracy may be the root, if not of all evil, at least of all discontent.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:56 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal">> <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> [ExI] kruger dunning again<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">>…<span style="color:black"> Surveys show that about 30% of Americans believe that a vaccine exists but it is being withheld, and that a cure for the virus exists but is being withheld</span>…<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">Ja that whole narrative is being fed by the case load in China falling to zero. I have my notion on what is causing that: they lie. If one accepts their word on it, then we get to pick an explanation, none of which are very plausible. Their strict lockdown is working far better than any other countries doing similar measures (quite dubious), they have some kind of genetic-based immunity (we know they don’t) the virus loves communists (doubt that one) any one of a number of similarly suspect theories, or they must have discovered a vaccine or a cure.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">Given all those, I suspect they are lying with their numbers. Reasoning: even if they did discover a cure, they would still have cured cases, or if a vaccine, they couldn’t immunize 1.4 billion people that fast.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">Given those choices, I see why 30% of Americans believe that a vaccine exists, but we don’t have it here.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">>…<span style="color:black">Now if true these would be earth-shaking facts and Hell to pay</span>…<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">Indeed? What hell is China going to pay, after we already know they kept the outbreak secret until it could spread to the whole planet?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">>…<span style="color:black">It make me wonder what would have happened if owning property was a prerequisite of voting.<u></u><u></u></span></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;color:black">bill w<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">Owning property doesn’t make one smart. Evidence would be to ask respondents if they own property, then see what percentage thinks a secret C-19 cure exists. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">If owning property ever became a prerequisite for voting, oh mercy that would be a grand opportunity to make a buttload of money. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">I co-own some “property” in West Virginia with no road to it. My property taxes are under 3 dollars a year on that. It has no zoning and no restrictions from sub-dividing it, as far as we know. We could study the definition of the term “property” then figure out how many separate piece of “property” could be created and sold per square foot. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">spike<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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