<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 2:44 PM Re Rose via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</span><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><i> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>You absolutely cannot make a twin of anything from its genome without other biochemical information.</i></span></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">I'm not sure what other <span style="font-family:sans-serif">biochemical information you're talking about but whatever it is it can certainly is encoded in the 3D array of atoms inside a sperm and a egg.</span></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span><i>You need a force field, </i></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">I presume you mean a electrical field. but that is determined by charges, and if you know where the molecules are then you know where the positive and negative ends of them are. </font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> <i></i></span><i>you need dynamics, </i></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">The momentum of atoms.</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> <i></i></span><i>you need solvent </i></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">Water is the solvent life uses, and it doesn't take much information to say that. And <span class="gmail_default">I am </span><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">unaware of any solvent not made of atoms.</span></font></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span><i>You keep reforming the same objections to my statements</i></span></font></div></div></blockquote><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">That's because you keep saying there is a huge amount of mysterious <span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">ethereal information that is missing, but when pushed it always comes back to atoms and their positions and momentums. Always.</span></font></div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"> John K Clark</span></font></div></div></div>