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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Clark via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] Virus testing<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 10:27 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmaildefault><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>> </span></span><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>we have taken a very liberal approach: counting anyone who dies with the virus and dying of the virus. </span></i><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>Almost certainly we are seriously underreporting the number of people who have died of COVID-19. Even if you subtract out the numbers that have officially died of COVID-19 the number of Americans who have died in late March April and early May is still </span><span class=gmaildefault><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>nearly</span></span><span style='font-size:13.5pt'> 50% greater than the number of Americans who died last year during the same months.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/28/us/coronavirus-death-toll-total.html">U.S. Coronavirus Death Toll Is Far Higher Than Reported, C.D.C. Data Suggests</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>J</span><span class=gmaildefault><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>ohn K Clark<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>That approach mixes those who died by some consequence of the lockdown, which is indirectly related to the virus, failing to differentiate from those who died of the virus. An example would be those who perish because they could not or did not get medical care for another condition.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>Here is a letter signed by several hundred doctors (ironically addressed to someone who does not have the authority to open individual states, counties or cities) which seems pretty convincing to me:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://disrn.com/news/mass-casualty-incident-600-doctors-sign-letter-to-trump-calling-for-end-to-coronavirus-lockdowns">https://disrn.com/news/mass-casualty-incident-600-doctors-sign-letter-to-trump-calling-for-end-to-coronavirus-lockdowns</a><span style='font-size:16.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>spike<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>