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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dylan Distasio via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] ring of truth<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>>…I understand that if you follow anarchy as a political philosophy why you might find Spike's use of the term offensive, but his use of it is well understood as a legitimate meaning of the word in the English language:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anarchist">https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anarchist</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>In fact, among the general populace, I would suspect Spike's definition is the only one most people are familiar with…<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ja, thanks for the reminder Dylan and Dave.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>There are different brands of anarchist, just as there are very different brands of libertarian or any other label, often very incompatible with each other, sharing the name. Often the most bitter animosity is between different brands of similarly-named parties (we see that in the Libertarian party.)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I don’t understand the details of anarchism, because I am not an anarchist: I believe a top-level government is beneficial, if it is carefully limited and defined by a constitution. When I see rioters burning buildings and cars, destroying property, attacking store owners, to me they are committing acts of anarchy, which makes them anarchists (one particular brand.) I recognize (and know personally) another brand of anarchist who doesn’t do these things. He believes people will be OK with no top-level government. He isn’t crazy or deluded, he is not a bad guy at all. We just disagree on that, perfectly peacefully. I would consider us friends: he’s a pleasant chap, tolerant of others, as am I. We just disagree on that topic full stop.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>In the USA, there is a thing called a minarchist, with a subset being a minarcho-capitalist. This is a guy who agrees a central government must exist, to do things like provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, establish justice, secure to ourselves and our posterity the blessings of liberty, you know, the thing. But a minarcho-capitalist would argue that the heavy lifting in government is done at the state level, because states have more options in how to raise funds than does the Federal government, which really has only the income tax.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> spike <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 11:49 AM Dave Sill via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 10:38 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Rioters and looters are anarchists, and they besmirch legitimate anarchists.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I don't know if you're trying to be clever or funny, but this is offensive and wrong. Please stop.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>-Dave<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>extropy-chat mailing list<br><a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat" target="_blank">http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>