<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 7:12 PM Dylan Distasio via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</span><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>John-<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span>My point was that Antifa gets to decide who the fascists are and then proactively use violence on them. </i></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"></font><font size="4">Well yes, but In the final analysis that's not just true for Antifa, everybody must decide for themselves who is a fascist and who is not and what cause is worth fighting for and what cause is not. I think trying to stop the police from murdering people is worth fighting for, and so is trying to slow down the country's current march towards fascism, but stopping the construction of an instrument that would help the human race learn more about the universe is not worth fighting for. At least that's what I've decided, what about you?</font></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span><i>If you're actually in favor of free speech,</i></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">I think a person has the right to say anything they want no matter how stupid, and I have a right to say they are unwise for doing so.</font></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><i> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>I'm not sure how you can reconcile that belief with it being ok for one group to do everything possible through both non-violent and violent means to shut down the free speech of anyone they don't agree with. </i></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">Considering the huge scale of these protests there has been very little violence from the protesters, I wish I could say the same thing about the police. A police riot is the worst kind of riot.</font></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>It's how Antifa operates,<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span>and that standard operating procedure has been inculcated on campuses throughout the country.</i></div></div></blockquote><div> </div><font size="4">I've looked into this a little, in the real world outside of the fever dreams of MAGA Hatters and QAnon nutcases it seems to me Antifa rarely operates at all, and when they do it's usually to organize students protesting <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">c</span>ollege administrators using student tuition money to pay a MAGA Hatter to give a Fascist speech on campus. I have no problem with that, you have the right to say whatever you want but you don't have the right to make me pay you to say it. Of course sometimes they protest speakers who are not Fascist like Richard Dawkins, and I do have a problem with that, but even then it's not a First Amendment issue it's just bad judgement. And of course Antifa is notoriously anti-capitalistic which is pretty silly.</font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">John K Clark</span><br></font><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
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