<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">On Jun 8, 2020, at 3:49 PM, spike jones via extropy-chat <extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org> wrote:<div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><!--[if !mso]><style>v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal">> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dan TheBookMan via extropy-chat<br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>_______________________________________________<br><br>That would explain the legitimate protestors handing over the vandal to the<br>cops.<br><br>We read Saul Alinsky Rules of Radicals too.<br><br>spike<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">>…<span style="color:black">You keep mentioning Saul Alinsky as if he invented the protest. Bringing him up is no answer to the issues raised.<br><br></span>>…<span style="color:black">By the way, it's actually questionable when protesting police misconduct _if_ turning over a vandal or a looter to the police is the right thing to do. There are other ways to deal with such people rather than turning them over to a group of people who are known to brutalize other people.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Dan<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Dan,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I went to a local BLM protest march yesterday. It was peaceful, the chief of police was there, city leaders were there, school teachers, ordinary citizens of all races, people came to speak their mind and do their thing. There were plenty of whites and browns there. I didn’t feel threatened at any time.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I took only one photo, this to remind me of the incident long in the future. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><div><image001.jpg></div> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The big problem that BLM people are having is that they keep being conflated with two other groups (at least two) who are pushing their own agendas and riding the perfectly legitimate cause of BLM. This was pointed out by one of the speakers. Antifa (from what I can tell) wants to rebuild society in their image. There are angry vandals among them. Vandalism does not advance the cause of BLM, it detracts from it. People are revolted by property destruction, for perfectly good reasons: it is too easy to envision bands of vandals roaming neighborhoods smashing car windows and slashing tires.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">There are looters who are there for profit (well hell at least I understand their motive, even if I disagree with their means.) They are opportunists. They too are being conflated with BLM, to the detriment of the latter.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">What I sense is that those with political power would like to join with and lift up BLM, for we agree: everyone should have equal opportunities and rights. We would also like to crush vandals, regardless of what motivates them. We would like to crush looters, for we know what motivates them and we disagree with it.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I agree with what the crowd at the BLM rally did in handing the vandal over to the guard. Their action was what motivated me to go to that local BLM rally yesterday. They did the right thing. The BLM people are not vandals, they do not wish to harm the police, destroy property, tear down government, any of that. They want to be treated with respect. They are just like the rest of us.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">spike</p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><br></div><div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Would you be willing to ‘crush’ the vandals revealed in this video:</span><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><a href="https://www.motherjones.com/anti-racism-police-protest/2020/06/videos-show-cops-slashing-car-tires-at-protests-in-minneapolis/">https://www.motherjones.com/anti-racism-police-protest/2020/06/videos-show-cops-slashing-car-tires-at-protests-in-minneapolis/</a><br><br><div dir="ltr"><div style="line-height: normal;"><div style="line-height: normal;"><span style="line-height: 20px;">Regards,</span></div><div style="line-height: normal;"><span style="line-height: 20px;"><br></span></div><div><div style="line-height: normal;"><span style="line-height: 20px;">Dan</span></div><div style="line-height: normal;"><span style="line-height: 20px;"> Sample my Kindle books at:</span></div><div style="line-height: normal;"><p style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">http://author.to/DanUst</span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>