<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr">On Jun 11, 2020, at 5:26 AM, John Clark via extropy-chat <extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org> wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 7:05 AM Dan TheBookMan via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</span><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>The idea of abolishing the police seems to be having something of a surge in popularity,</i></div></div></blockquote><div> </div><font size="4">Defunding the police is not the same as abolishing the police. Camden New Jersey defunded the police seven years ago and it turned out well. Back then Camden had the highest murder rate in the country and police corruption was so firmly entrenched that reform was impossible, and because of super powerful police unions it cost over $182,000 per officer so they only had 175 of them. Camden decided to start from scratch and fired the entire police force and started a new one; if an officer wanted to stay on the force he had to submit a job application just like everybody else. The move broke the powerful police union so now it only cost $99,600 to hire an officer, and so there are now over 400 of them. The result of all of this is today the murder rate is only a third what it was seven years ago before the police were def<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">unded</span>, and the Relationship between the police and the black community is much improved, the current police chief of Camden actually marched with the black lives matter people.</font></div></div></div></blockquote><br><div><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">No shit, but Cory _was_ discussing police abolition -- not confusing it with defunding the police. Or did you not read my subject line and his first sentence?</span><br><br><div dir="ltr"><div style="line-height: normal;"><div style="line-height: normal;"><span style="line-height: 20px; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Regards,</span></div><div style="line-height: normal;"><span style="line-height: 20px; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><div style="line-height: normal;"><span style="line-height: 20px; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Dan</span></div><div style="line-height: normal;"><span style="line-height: 20px; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> Sample my Kindle books at:</span></div><div style="line-height: normal;"><p style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">http://author.to/DanUst</span></p></div></div></div><div><div style="line-height: normal;"></div></div></div></div></body></html>