<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">I came up with the following list of human-specific traits of intelligence:</div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><ul><li style="margin-left:15px">Communicate via natural language</li><li style="margin-left:15px">Learn, adapt, and grow</li><li style="margin-left:15px">Move through a dynamic environment</li><li style="margin-left:15px">Recognize sights and sounds</li><li style="margin-left:15px">Be creative in music, art, writing and invention</li><li style="margin-left:15px">Reason with logic and rationality to solve problems</li></ul><div>Jason</div><div><br></div><div>Every one of these traits is found all over the animal kingdom, excepting the creativity part (and birds may make up songs),. Language is not spoken, literally, but whales and dolphins, for example, communicate by mouth sounds - not all instinct. Rats may not have formal logic, but they can think their way out of a maze - they would amaze you with their intelligence. bill w</div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 7:04 PM Jason Resch via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_attr">(Sorry re-sending, sen't to wrong address)</div><br><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 3:14 PM Robin D Hanson <<a href="mailto:rhanson@gmu.edu" target="_blank">rhanson@gmu.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Yes of course I’m considering exp progress in stuff that has been exp, and linear progress in stuff that has been linear.
<div>The hard part about human AI is doing every thing WELL. You can’t really pick an ability X and say “no AI can do X”.</div>
<div>Almost always, there is some system that does X, except just very BADLY. </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I came up with the following list of human-specific traits of intelligence:</div><div><br></div><div><ul><li>Communicate via natural language</li><li>Learn, adapt, and grow</li><li>Move through a dynamic environment</li><li>Recognize sights and sounds</li><li>Be creative in music, art, writing and invention</li><li>Reason with logic and rationality to solve problems</li></ul></div><div>Is there anything important that I've forgotten? Because there has been major progress in each of these domains. It's hard to imagine that after a 1,000 or million-fold increase in compute they won't be vastly superior.</div><div><br></div><div>This is where we stand today, if we put everything together in one system:</div></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><p style="box-sizing:inherit;margin-bottom:1.5em;color:rgb(48,48,48);font-family:"Titillium Web",Tahoma,Arial;font-size:18px">"We would get an AI that could hold a conversation in any of 100 languages over the phone. It would beat everyone at Jeopardy, Chess, Go, Poker, as well any old video game. The AI would be able to recognize any object or face — even detect cancer better than most doctors. It would also be accomplished and creative, having invented things, discovered laws of physics, and identified new drugs. The AI could compose as well as Bach and paint as well as van Gogh. It would also be seen as highly original in its own artistic styles."</p></div></div></blockquote><div class="gmail_quote"><div><blockquote style="box-sizing:inherit;margin:0px 0px 1.5em;padding-left:1.25em;border-left:4px solid rgb(48,48,48);color:rgb(119,119,119);font-style:italic;font-size:18px;font-family:"Titillium Web",Tahoma,Arial"><p style="box-sizing:inherit;margin-bottom:1.5em;margin-top:0.5em">‘Let’s put all these together,’ and then it will be smart. -- <span style="color:rgb(64,64,64);font-size:1rem;font-style:normal">Marvin Minsky</span></p></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>Jason</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
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Robin Hanson <a href="mailto:rhanson@gmu.edu" target="_blank">rhanson@gmu.edu</a> <br>
Future of Humanity Inst., Oxford University<br>
Assoc. Prof. Economics, George Mason University<br>
See my books: <a href="http://ageofem.com" target="_blank">http://ageofem.com</a> <a href="http://elephantinthebrain.com" target="_blank">
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