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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] powerful image<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>How about if a neighborhood forms a collective and places grocery orders every week (or some other time frame) and a van rented or owned by the collective goes to the stores, loads up, and delivers to the neighborhood (to the doorstep for the disabled, or to a central location for everyone else)? I think you can rent a van for a few hours, say half a day, very cheaply. Or someone could go into business and do this for several collectives. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'> bill w<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ja. BillW, we have in my scout troop a family who lived in Ukraine through their transition from communism to now a kind of hybrid socialist-almost-capitalist. They teach a particular merit badge: citizenship in the world, for they are uniquely qualified, having lived under communist, socialist and capitalism.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I was at their house recently and she found some images of grocery stores in Ukraine in the late 80s and early 90s (during the transition.) This one is typical of what a grocery store looked like in those days in the cool months (note the babushka in red in the foreground.) There wasn’t a lot need for advertising, because they could sell everything they received.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>According to our friends, grocery shopping is waaaaay the hell easier here than there: you just go, get what you need, fast checkout, done. There, the lines were very long for everything, so the process of getting food took a lot of time investment.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Those who are eager to transition to that system don’t know what they are asking for:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><img width=522 height=338 style='width:5.4375in;height:3.5208in' id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image002.jpg@01D643C1.39AA0080"><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Well, OK. We can have outdoor farmer’s markets on the burnt-out sites in Chicago where grocery stores once stood, set up under tents. That solution will last until about mid-September when the cold winds, blow away those tents, which drop out of the sky upon puzzled residents of southern Ohio. This would cause the markets there to depend on the denser produce, such as potatoes and melons which are less likely to take flight by either wind or theft.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I suspect the locals will not like the new system as much as the ones the rioters burned and looted.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>spike<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>