<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">>> Is it worth the many billion it would cost to keep humans on the moon?<br>
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>Would it in fact cost many billions?<br>
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Yes. Industrializing the moon might run more than $2 T. O'Neill's<br>
1975 proposal is close to half a trillion in current dollars.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I didn't ask if a proposal from decades ago, without the benefits of all the research and advances since then, would cost many billions.</div><div><br></div><div>Yes, NASA has come up with many very expensive proposals. And? Others, with more reason to believe their estimates, have come up with cheaper and more reliable ways to do it. </div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">It takes the full-time efforts of 3 people to maintain the ISS.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Three people is hardly billions, even including life support.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">That means your lunar base is located in a lave tube, not where you<br>
want it to be for other reasons.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>There are lava tubes all over, and it's quite possible lava tubes would be colocated with KREEP deposits in particular.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Rare earth elements are not that rare. I don't think anyone of them<br>
is worth the cost to ship to earth. Certainly, magnesium i and<br>
aluminum are not valuable enough for them to be worth shipping.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Once the facilities are set up, what's the per-unit cost to ship them back to Earth? Assume a reusable railgun has been set up, and that you've got enough solar panels (in lunar or even Earth orbit if you prefer) to fully power the works.<br><br>If the cost is not at least $6/kg, then magnesium would seem profitable to ship - and some rare earth elements sell for much more than that.</div><div><br></div><div>Of course, the facilities will have to be paid for - but if you can make a profit per unit, then paying off the facilities is just a matter of shipping back and selling enough material. How many kg is enough, and how many years would it take to ship that much material? </div></div></div>