<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">What is depressing to me is that so many poor people don't raise any food. All it takes is a 5 gallon bucket, available every mile or so on the highway, and you have a tomato bed. Probably inside watching TV. I wonder just how much time is spent unproductively - TV, smartphone, video games and more. We have somehow taken people off the farms, lured them into cities where they can't grow much food, never mind keeping goats and pigs, and so they have nothing to do with their spare time but get the electronics out. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Most proles in history would not understand the meaning of 'spare time' .."Men work from sun to sun but a woman's work is never done." </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">spike - we drove from LA to SF on back roads. We stopped once so I could go into a supermarket and get some artichokes, big fields of which we had just passed. Surprise!! Same price as back home. I still wonder about that. bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 11:08 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_8537028656903664082WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal">> <b>On Behalf Of </b>SR Ballard via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] farm country, was: RE: kiwis keeping it real<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">>…Well, Spike, we actually throw away at least half of that food. <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">>…Maybe high rise growing won’t completely solve the problem. In fact I doubt it will. But green is good for human psychology, so are trees. Nothing wrong with that. They will also help to reduce pollution. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">>…Reducing transportation reduces cost, fossil fuels, and deadly accidents…SR Ballard<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">Hi SR, ja I agree with everything you wrote. Indoor farming will always be specialty high-value crops, rather than a means of feeding the masses. The kinds of stuff one would grow there might be orchids and wasabi and that kind of thing, where a prole might be able to offer tickets, where proles might pay to come in there and work the crops, their only means of getting their hands dirty, create kind of a Tom Sawyer farm analogous to the time Aunt Polly made Tom paint the fence, but he managed to convince the other boys it was such grand fun, Tom had them paying him for the privilege of painting that fence. We do that with a big indoor hydroponic farm in the middle of the city.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">Consider: Stanford has a community garden where volunteers come regularly to play farmer. One day a week they have no-engine Saturday. It is what it sounds like: a day where all the work is done by hand tools and manual labor.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">Imagine a mid-city farm as a big indoor foliage park. Advertise it as a place to breathe pure high-oxygen low carbon dioxide air, a calm clean place to mediate, refresh the soul, cleanse the system in a serene environment among a verdant explosion of plant life, that kinda crap. Charge them twenty bucks an hour to be there, heh, plenty of big city suckers would pay. Oh my, the profits to be made, mercy, just thinking about it makes my butt hurt. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">spike<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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