<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">We'll just have to be satisfied that those people you mention are small minorities. Me? I would be happy with a do-nothing know-nothing president. Color, gender, age, orientation all irrelevant. bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 1:15 PM SR Ballard via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Depends how far right we’re defining the far right as. Monarchists and Dominionists of course aren’t every going to be satisfied by any political party. Or fascists. Or incels who think every man should be assured a wife by the US government. <br><br><div dir="ltr">SR Ballard</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Jul 3, 2020, at 12:24 PM, Dylan Distasio via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">Most of the far right are disgusted with the Republican party. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 1:18 PM SR Ballard via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">I strenuously disagree that only the far right are the only members left in the Republican party. They’re just the loudest and they are growing, but they’re not the whole party. Surely even you know some “not Trump, not Pence” Republicans?<div><br></div><div>That’s like saying the only Democrats are Bernie diehards. <br><br><div dir="ltr">SR Ballard</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Jul 3, 2020, at 11:55 AM, John Clark via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 10:45 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <</span><a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">> wrote:</span><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><u></u></p></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt"><i><u></u></i></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:14pt"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span></span> I didn’t jump to anyone’s defense. Pointing out that POTUS has no jurisdiction in this case isn’t defending POTUS.</i></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><font size="4">You're excusing POTUS's dereliction of duty. The virus has outsmarted Trump at every turn, he even gave the virus a silly nickname (kung flu) because that strategy worked so well against his political opponents, but to his surprise this time it didn't work, the virus remained unflustered. So Trump is out of ideas, he's in way over his head so he just throws up his hands and says there's nothing I can do so I don't want to talk or hear about it ever again, and then he goes out and plays golf or does what he's really good at, turning on Fox News and watching sycophants fawn over him.</font><br><div><span style="font-size:14pt"> </span><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span></span><i>The rioters and BLM demonstrators are generally not wearing masks already.</i></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4">It's true that<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> n</span>ot all of them wore masks and they should<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> have, but the percentage was much higher than at the Trump rallies, and at least the BLM people were outdoors. </span> </font></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>The guy in the video can’t do much of anything, because he isn’t a governor, only a POTUS. POTUS doesn’t have the authority a governor has in this case</i></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4">And for similar reasons Franklin Roosevelt said in a famous speech<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">:</span> </font></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><font size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">"</span><i>Yesterday, December 7th, 1941 -- a date which will live in infamy -- the Territory of Hawaii was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan. I'm sure I speak for all Americans when I say I wish the Hawaiians the very best of luck in the <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">difficult </span>struggle they have before them</i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><i>.</i>"</span></font><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:14pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span><i>(Bill of Rights, Amendments 9 and 10.)</i></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><font size="4">If what you say is true and the constitution renders the federal government powerless to protect its citizens from a global virus epidemic as every<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span>other advanced technological country in the world has managed to do then that is an admission that the constitution of the United States is a complete failure and is nothing but a worthless scrap of paper. But I don't really think the constitution is worthless, I think the current POTUS is worthless. Protecting its citizens is the entire point of having a federal government, but Trump is more interested in protecting statues of long dead American traitors.</font><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u></p><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">></span><i> the pandemic is not a left-right issue,</i></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">As long as </font></span><font size="4">Trump thinks wearing a virus <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">protection </span>mask is a <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">political </span>sign of personal dissatisfaction with him and <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">as long as </span>extreme right wing Republicans (the <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">only type</span> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">of Republican </span>there <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">is</span><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> anymore</span>) think that <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">"</span><i>member's of the Church of Secular Science bow to the Gods of Data by wearing a mask as their symbol, demonstrating that they are the elite; smarter, more rational, and morally superior to everyone else</i>"<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> then like it or not the virus epidemic has very much become a left-right issue. And respect for the truth has also become a left-right issue.</span></font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">John K Clark</span><br></font><br>
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