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On 10/07/2020 17:38, billw wrote:<br>
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ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">I will reprise my
opinion of Odysseus here: I think that he was a thug and I
don't care if the people at the time thought he was a hero.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans
ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Rape, pillage,
murder are just not going down with me as acceptable no matter
what. bill w</div>
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and:<br>
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Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.<br>
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The point of the phrase is that we want to throw out the bathwater,
but keep the baby, not ditch both or keep both. In other words, it's
not black & white. Nothing, and nobody is.<br>
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I think the term 'hero-worship' is not very useful, because it casts
the 'hero' in black/white terms. Ditto 'role-model'. I have my own
heroes, but I don't worship them. One of them was almost certainly
an arrogant bastard who I would have taken an instant dislike to if
I met him in real life. He's still one of my 'heroes', for other
reasons.<br>
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The key to all this is eclecticism, I think. Often cast as a bad
thing, I have always regarded it as a very good thing.<br>
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It's perfectiy possible to abhor some of the things your heroes did,
while admiring, and wanting to emulate, other things they did.<br>
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Ben Zaiboc</pre>
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