<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">The virtues, in my understanding, have to work together. But let’s leave that aside. While there might be a problem with treating any virtue as unlimited or undefeated by other concerns, the problem with embracing the concomitant vice here is that you are likely to not get people who are right but insincere, but folks who are just plain insincere in a way that leaves you guessing.<div><br></div><div>Now, that said, you accused someone here of voting for Trump — or of not being in the choir, which amounts to the same thing. He claims otherwise and there’s little reason to doubt him here. So why do you doubt him? Because he’s not foaming at the mouth UN lockstep with you.</div><div><br></div><div>By the way, in an older post where I asked about clerics being moral experts, you said something along the lines of well they don’t trust the laity. That’s fine, but I’m in the laity as I’m not a member of their church.<br><br><div dir="ltr"><div style="line-height: normal;"><div style="line-height: normal;"><span style="line-height: 20px; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Regards,</span></div><div style="line-height: normal;"><span style="line-height: 20px; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><div style="line-height: normal;"><span style="line-height: 20px; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Dan</span></div><div style="line-height: normal;"><span style="line-height: 20px; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> Sample my Kindle books at:</span></div><div style="line-height: normal;"><p style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">http://author.to/DanUst</span></p></div></div></div><div><div style="line-height: normal;"></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jul 29, 2020, at 1:40 PM, John Clark via extropy-chat <extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 4:28 PM Anton Sherwood via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</span><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><i>
<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>In the old days, defining another's sincerity by one's own criteria would, I think, have been frowned on.</i><br></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">Sincerity is a vastly overrated virtue, I'd rather somebody be insincerely right than sincerely wrong. And in the old days this list frowned upon anti-libertarianism, but those days are long gone. </font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"> John K Clark</font></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></body></html>