<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"> The </span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Chinese government certainly seems onboard with war judging by their </span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">closure of our embassies and lack of conciliatory behavior. stuart</span><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Who started closing embassies first? And have you seen any conciliatory behavior out of Trump? The very idea is foolish. bill w</span></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 9:45 PM Stuart LaForge via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
Quoting Robert Kennedy III:<br>
<br>
><br>
> some say this mystery-seeds-from-China thing is just some fraudsters'<br>
> scams exploiting a bug in Amazon.<br>
><br>
> Or that it's "Gaslighting" (A word I don?t use often enough-somehow I<br>
> managed to grow up without seeing the Ingrid Bergman movie so I missed<br>
> that meme.)<br>
><br>
> The fraud seems like a stretch to me. Also I know that Asian "murder<br>
> hornets" showed up out of the blue in the Pacific Northwest this winter.<br>
> So I've been having unsettling thoughts about clandestine bio-warfare<br>
> or eco-sabotage.<br>
<br>
Your instincts serve you well, Robert. It is hard to believe that a <br>
regime that tracks its citizens so thoroughly<br>
that it can stop a viral epidemic in its tracks would be unaware that <br>
its merchants are exporting seeds out of country, benign or harmful.<br>
<br>
Therefore the most likely scenario is some sort of biological or <br>
agricultural eco-warfare especially in light of the honeybee <br>
destroying murder hornets, if not COVID-19 in the first place. The <br>
Chinese government certainly seems onboard with war judging by their <br>
closure of our embassies and lack of conciliatory behavior.<br>
<br>
It seems pretty obvious that Trump is desperate to get us into a war <br>
with somebody, and it doesn't seem to matter who since Iran, China, <br>
and Antifa all seem plausible. Except that of all of them, China seems <br>
to be the most eager to fight at this time. Since no POTUS has ever <br>
lost his job in the middle of a war, not even a civil war, I think <br>
that it statistically safe to to say that if we go to war for any <br>
reason before November, then Trump will likely win a second term.<br>
<br>
The problem is that even if by some miracle, we avoid war until after <br>
the election, the war is likely to still happen. So any candidate who <br>
runs against Trump had better have a plan in place to counter China's <br>
warmongering that does not involve submitting to communist tyranny. If <br>
Biden's plan is simply to roll over and let China have their way with <br>
us, then he has no chance to be elected.<br>
<br>
Stuart LaForge<br>
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