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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 6, 2020 11:36 AM<br><b>To:</b> ExI chat list <extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org><br><b>Cc:</b> William Flynn Wallace <foozler83@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> [ExI] for Henry<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>Are you familiar with the new, to me, H factor? I have a book here by Kibeom Lee and Michael Ashton that discusses the Hexaco inventory. Aside from associating shyness with introversion (only high N introverts may be shy and that's a minority) it's pretty good. Here is a sample that others in the group might like:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>"People who are low in H (humility/honesty) and high in O (openness - from the Big Five) are aggressively nonconformist. Their high O results in a natural inclination to be unconventional; their low H in a lack of consideration for other people. The result is a person who takes a special joy in offending community standards and who defies conventional morality partly in order to gain a reputation for being radical."<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>Such a person would seem to characterize someone who would not wear a mask and perhaps be in the antiscience crowd.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>What do you think?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>bill w<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>BillW, set up two axes, H on the vertical, O on the horizontal, divide into four quadrants, number them in the usual way familiar to algebra students. You described quad 2 with low H and high O.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I claim to be out on the far corner of quad 1: high humility and honesty, high openness.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Regarding masks: that one is complicated by a wide variation in how much people believe they are effective outdoors. I have never convinced myself that they are a bit effective outside. Staying back is way better. With that model, not wearing a mask is a safety thing: the other proles see you not wearing one and they stay farther back, which protects both.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Here in California we are constantly urged to wear masks, and I see nearly half the proles doing so, outdoors. Indoors at a business it is required: the store owner can throw one’s ass out for not doing it. So that one doesn’t really count. But I have seen extremists, still see them: wearing a mask while driving alone. That should be discouraged methinks: the increase in CO2 while driving is a bad thing.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Refusing to wear a mask outdoors should not be equated with lack of consideration for others, for that isn’t what it is. Wearing a mask indoors should not be equated with consideration for others, because that isn’t what that is either.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Nonconformity isn’t entirely voluntary. Some people really are just weird.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Do reframe your Hexaco question please.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>spike<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>