<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 10:59 AM Keith Henson via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Perhaps someone has a proposal to get around this problem. I have<br>
thought about it for the last 3-4 years and failed to come up with a<br>
solution except to construct power satellites entirely with<br>
robots/teleoperation.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I also think that teleconstruction is the best route for any on-orbit construction needed for this application..</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">If we build power satellites in LEO and try to fly them out to GEO,<br>
they get hit with space junk about 40 times. (Excel spreadsheet on<br>
request.)<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Data source, please? That a single satellite going LEO->GEO will on average be hit 40 times seems way higher than is supported by the data I am aware of - which is that most satellites going from LEO to GEO get hit zero times.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The only<br>
solution I know is to build them above the junk at around 2000 km.<br>
People can't work there, it's in the lower Van Allen belt and lethal<br>
within hours.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>What are you thinking they are built of, and how do those components get there in ways that fully constructed satellites wouldn't?</div><div><br></div><div>For that matter, how are you thinking the components get to LEO, in ways that are collectively cheaper than ground assembly then launching the whole thing to LEO?</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The current baseline logistics is to collect parts in a 300 km orbit,<br>
then use a recycling tug with chemical fuel to get them out to the<br>
construction site at 2000 km (densely packed so they present a small<br>
target to getting hit). It takes (IIRC) 827 m/s for a Hohmann<br>
transfer from 300 km out to 2000. The fuel burned increases the cost<br>
of parts (and reaction mass) at the construction orbit by about 20%<br>
over the cost at 300 km.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Have you looked into ion engines for the tug instead of chemical engines? </div></div></div>