<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Inasmuch as Rafal is a physician and i don't know Gabe, I'd like to know whose list of supplements this is. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Just to let you know: I got breathless hanging out the clothes (!), so I decided it was time to do something, so I went to a heart doctor to get approval for an exercise program. Ultrasound and EKG showed a heart attack to the back of the heart sometime in the past, and an enlarged heart which is working at 30% efficiency, or whatever the measurement is. I was put on a beta blocker and a blood pressure medicine (Entresto, which my pharmacist says is a great drug). If the pills work I will regain some functioning. If anyone has any suggestions based on my diagnosis, please let me know. The stats look like I might have 5 to 10 years left, which would put me at 88 - plenty of life left, and 88 isn't bad for someone with my problems (two cancers to boot). Thanks! bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 8:58 AM Gabe Waggoner via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br>
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 9:19 PM Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <<br>
> <a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Good Question.<br>
> I'm in no way an expert at any of this, so I just trust the experts at<br>
> Thrivous, and take both of these stacks:<br>
> <a href="https://thrivous.com/products/nootropic-stack" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://thrivous.com/products/nootropic-stack</a><br>
> <a href="https://thrivous.com/products/geroprotector-stack" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://thrivous.com/products/geroprotector-stack</a><br>
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> Is there anything I'm missing with these?<br>
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> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 7:19 PM Dylan Distasio via extropy-chat <<br>
> <a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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> > Hopefully this topic is not verboten on a list about extropianism, but I'm<br>
> > curious if anyone is experimenting with different pharmaceuticals or<br>
> > supplements for either life extension or enhancement (i.e. nootropics,<br>
> > etc.).<br>
> > Just to start the conversation, I will share my personal life extension<br>
> > (hopefully!) stack:<br>
> > Pulsed rapamycin<br>
> > Metformin<br>
> > Candesartan<br>
> > Low dose tadalafil<br>
> > nicotinamide riboside / pterostilbene<br>
> > Resveratrol<br>
> > I've also considered adding a statin although I am hesitant due to some<br>
> > potential side effects.<br>
> > I am also planning on a quarterly senolytic regime of dasatinib and<br>
> > quercetin, and have the drug but have not started yet.<br>
> > I'm personally interested in hearing about any nootropics or other<br>
> > enhancers people are experimenting with.<br>
> > I can provide more detail on why I am taking the above combo if anyone is<br>
> > interested.<br>
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### For years I've been interested in the supplements people take and was glad to see this topic (I've had a backlog of digests to review). I edit a lot of research into vitamin D3, for instance. Here's my regimen, and I'm happy to discuss further on- or offlist. (It kills me that I can't italicize or use small caps or subscripts in this plain-text message.)<br>
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Multivitamin (Dr. Tobias Adult)<br>
L-Glutathione reduced<br>
L-Glutamine<br>
Quercetin with bromelain<br>
Berberine + vitamin C + Zn<br>
Cayenne pepper<br>
Marshmallow root<br>
N-Acetyl cysteine + Se + Mo<br>
Cloves<br>
Apple cider vinegar<br>
Grapefruit seed extract<br>
N-acetyl-D-glucosamine<br>
Coenzyme Q10<br>
Calcium citrate + vitamin D2 + Mg + Cu + Mn<br>
Oxaloacetate + vitamin C<br>
Glucoraphanin (from broccoli seed extract) + myrosinase<br>
Cinnamon bark<br>
Gamma-linolenic acid + ginsenoside + withaferin A<br>
Omega-3 fish oil (pretty much the only animal product I ingest)<br>
Resveratrol<br>
PQQ disodium salt<br>
Curcumin<br>
Niacinamide<br>
Vitamin D3 (10,400 IU/day)<br>
Vitamin K2<br>
AMPK (CaCO3 + hesperidia + gynostemma extract)<br>
Senolytic activator (weekly; quercetin + phosphatidylcholine complex + theaflavins)<br>
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Suggestions always welcome. For some of those, I can accept that Sheldon Cooper may be right and that I'm just getting very expensive urine. But my serum level of vitamin D has been stellar for over a decade. As a pale redhead, I don't get much sun exposure to synthesize my own. I keep my doctor informed of all supplements I take. But with so many variables, I have no way to gauge how effective the regimen is, if at all. Most likely, my exercise (lots of Les Mills RPM [basically spin class] and BodyPump [weight training], plus running/hiking with the dog) and my nutrition are benefiting me the most.<br>
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I'd like to see about taking metformin, but I'm not sure exactly how to go about getting it as a nondiabetic. I doubt my doctor would prescribe it purely to satisfy my curiosity about it.<br>
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Wishing everyone a great day,<br>
Gabe<br>
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Gabe Waggoner<br>
<a href="http://www.nasw.org/users/rgwaggoner/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.nasw.org/users/rgwaggoner/</a><br>
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