<div dir="ltr">This study may be of interest regarding cloth masks (it's not good news). Personally, I think properly fitted N95s WOULD make a big difference, although they're very uncomfortable in heat or when worn for long periods of time, and of course there is no easy way to get them outside of sources with questionable provenance.<div><br></div><div><a href="https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/4/e006577" target="_blank">https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/4/e006577</a> <br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 4:59 PM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I just saw evidence that the cloth masks, called gaiters (like the one I wear and pull up) are not nearly good enough - may even be worse than nothing, though I cannot see how that could be. bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 3:37 PM John Clark via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 4:04 PM Dylan Distasio via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</span><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>I think the larger, simpler question is "do masks even work?" </i></div></blockquote><div><br></div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span><font size="4">The IHME computer model (Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation), which Trump frequently cited in the early days of the pandemic before its predictions became too dark and too accurate for his taste, says 160,000 more Americans will die of COVID-19 between now and December 1, but if 95% of the people wore face masks when they went out of their houses there would be 66,000 fewer deaths than that. Could they be wrong? Sure, but they are one hell of a lot more likely to be right than you or I are after studying the very complex science of epidemiology for no more than 20 minutes.</font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> John K Clark</span></font></div></div>
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