<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">So where are the N95 masks we proles can buy? Limited to medical personnel is all I can find. spike, let's start making them and make a great big pile of money. bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 4:47 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_-3084879884829387025WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank">spike@rainier66.com</a> <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank">spike@rainier66.com</a>> <br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [ExI] Who has a vote that counts?<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat<br><b>…</b><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="gmail-m_-3084879884829387025gmaildefault"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">>…<span style="color:black">As far as I can tell, you are talking about the one thing I labeled as an assumption.</span></span></span> <span class="gmail-m_-3084879884829387025gmaildefault"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">I have no idea who if anyone, the bikers follow, and it has no relationship to </span></span><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">my thinking</span><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">… BillW<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">>…Ja. Many bikers, including me, wear a mask while riding. The reason is because the dry wind and sun are hard on lips. The mask helps…spike<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I could focus that a bit. Bikers and gun owners are two examples of groups who know their legal rights and they know law. Both know that governments at all levels do not have the power to arbitrarily demand the citizens do something. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Governments in the US (states and local) have the authority to do some things conditionally. If you earn money, you must file a tax return and pay tax on it. If you are male and service age, you must register for the selective service, but that only applies to 18-25 year olds and only to men (no one has yet demanded a definition of the term “male” (but if a case ever came up, anyone could claim to be not a male (case dismissed (how could the prosecutor prove otherwise? (Is the term male defined? How?))))))<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.sss.gov/register/who-needs-to-register/" target="_blank">https://www.sss.gov/register/who-needs-to-register/</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">States require licenses to drive a car, governments require licenses to sell liquor and plenty of other activities, but all these are conditional requirements.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">The state of California has a mask mandate which requires masks n public, but there is no actual fine or penalty if a prole fails to do it:<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.abc10.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/face-covering-mandatory-california-fine-enforcement-updates-2/103-719b865a-1ebc-4e81-a797-957058026016" target="_blank">https://www.abc10.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/face-covering-mandatory-california-fine-enforcement-updates-2/103-719b865a-1ebc-4e81-a797-957058026016</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">There is no legal structure at the national level to require and enforce masks. The exception is to declare martial law, which the federal government has not done.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">So… I say wear one if you think it will help. Keep a greater distance if you think that is a better strategy. Stay safe, keep others safe, do the right thing. It isn’t complicated.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">spike<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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