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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Samantha Adkins!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Where the heeeeeeelllll have ya been? And howya been? Plenty of new timers here can learn much from your posts! And we old timers want to know what you have to post. Tell us everything that happened in the last decade or so with Samantha.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Welcome back, and don’t disappear again please.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>spike<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Samantha Atkins <sjatkins@gmail.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 19, 2020 11:34 AM<br><b>To:</b> ExI chat list <extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org><br><b>Cc:</b> spike@rainier66.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] did sweden accidentally achieve herd immunity?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Yep. Until 2006 and a Bush commission the Swedish approach has been considered the most rational approach for dealing with a pandemic. That has been so since WWII. In 2006 the computer modelers won the day and got lockdown on the official list of possible responses. But note we did not do that for the Swine Flu pandemic of 2009. Mass lockdowns and such were frowned upon for major panicking of population and huge potential hit on economy. It was believed, I think rightly, that lockdowns widen, deepen and prolong the misery. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Aug 14, 2020, at 4:08 PM, spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><image002.jpg><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Source:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/"><span style='color:#0563C1'>https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sweden did less than other countries on Covid. They did shut down schools, but didn’t do all that much else.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The Swedish approach was not advertised as looking to achieve herd immunity, but that might be what is happening here.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>As Reason magazine points out, if they accidentally blundered into achieving even partial herd immunity, it is good news for the species:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://reason.com/2020/08/14/did-sweden-accidentally-blunder-into-covid-19-herd-immunity/?utm_medium=email"><span style='color:#0563C1'>https://reason.com/2020/08/14/did-sweden-accidentally-blunder-into-covid-19-herd-immunity/?utm_medium=email</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>spike<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>_______________________________________________<br>extropy-chat mailing list<br></span><a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#0563C1'>extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</span></a><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><br></span><a href="http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#0563C1'>http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>