<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">My coworker’s mom and grandma died on ventilators about 2 weeks ago from Covid, which my coworker also had (but lived)<br><br><div dir="ltr">SR Ballard</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Sep 4, 2020, at 9:27 AM, spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">August with or of covid fatalites per half million<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">LA county: 40. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Santa Clara county: 12. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Sturgis: 1.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Another possibility: it is over. Covid is over. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Recall how SARS just ended? As I recall, it just went away. Or is mutated into a form which the people who caught it didn’t realize that is what it was and didn’t get very sick, so they didn’t go to the doctor or get tested. What if this one is that way, and people are no longer getting all those severe symptoms, the cases are mild, still testing positive for antibodies, but it produces mild symptoms now?<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">If so, would we get a signal that looks like this?<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Reasoning: LA has a lot of sunshine, but it also has a looooootta lotta homeless people. Being homeless is a hard way to live. Homeless people die a lot. Often they are mentally ill, they drink out of rivers other homeless people are using as a toilet, many are on drugs, many are alcoholic, many are depressed or have other reasons to want to die. Diseases spread thru homeless communities for plenty of reasons.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">But the coroner counts them as covid with or have if the antibody test comes up positive.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">LA county has a lot of homeless. Santa Clara has way fewer, but some. Sturgis has none that I know of.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">What if we reached herd immunity in the US, but didn’t realize it because of the way we count our dead?<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Question please: does any here know anyone who died gasping for air in the hospital clearly of covid? Does anyone here know anyone or know the family of anyone who can verify any recent case, since about first of August, where it was clear that person caught covid and died of the symptoms we heard were killing people back in March and April? Or know anyone who knows anyone who knows anyone? How can we get some kind of verification that these numbers are not an artifact of the way we are counting, mixing our withs and ofs?<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">spike<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>extropy-chat mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat">http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>