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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dylan Distasio via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] The Futurism of Elon Musk<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 11:25 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank">spike@rainier66.com</a> <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank">spike@rainier66.com</a>> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Sure, we have power shortages now, particularly at sunset on hot days, but… there is a solution to that, and Mr. Musk will sell it to us.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>>…You wouldn't need a solution if your state faced the reality of its energy needs and balanced them appropriately against the unreliability of a heavily "green" solar/wind grid… Dylan<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Dylan, <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Oy vey. I have a family member in Southern Cal who is sick, has to deal with this:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#F5F8FA'><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><a href="https://twitter.com/MayorOfLA"><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;border:solid black 1.0pt;padding:0in;text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></a></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#F5F8FA'><b><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#14171A;border:solid black 1.0pt;padding:0in'><a href="https://twitter.com/MayorOfLA"><span style='color:#14171A;text-decoration:none'>MayorOfLA</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#14171A;border:none;text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></a></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:3.75pt;background:#F5F8FA'><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#657786;border:solid black 1.0pt;padding:0in'><a href="https://twitter.com/MayorOfLA"><span style='color:#657786;text-decoration:none'>@MayorOfLA<o:p></o:p></span></a></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#F5F8FA'><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#F5F8FA'><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#657786;border:solid black 1.0pt;padding:0in'>·</span><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#657786'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#F5F8FA'><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><a href="https://twitter.com/MayorOfLA/status/1302726251371667457" title="2:51 PM · Sep 6, 2020"><span style='font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#657786;border:solid black 1.0pt;padding:0in'>22h</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#F5F8FA'><span lang=EN style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#14171A;border:solid black 1.0pt;padding:0in'>It’s almost 3 p.m. Time to turn off major appliances, set the thermostat to 78 degrees (or use a fan instead), turn off excess lights and unplug any appliances you’re not using. We need every Californian to help conserve energy. Please do your part. </span><span lang=EN style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#14171A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://twitter.com/MayorOfLA/status/1302726251371667457?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1302790577575133186%7Ctwgr%5E393535353b636f6e74726f6c&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fdirectorblue.blogspot.com%2F">https://twitter.com/MayorOfLA/status/1302726251371667457?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1302790577575133186%7Ctwgr%5E393535353b636f6e74726f6c&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fdirectorblue.blogspot.com%2F</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>So… why not encourage (with tax incentives?) well-off proles to buy Teslas and Power Walls, then use those to help carry the load rather than these absurd rolling blackouts?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Aside: when California had those rolling blackouts in about 2000 and 2001, someone built a natural gas peaker plant: <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://ww2.energy.ca.gov/sitingcases/losesteros2/index.html">https://ww2.energy.ca.gov/sitingcases/losesteros2/index.html</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>What I heard is that they had planned and had pre-approved a second phase which would require one of those hourglass-shaped cooling towers (like you see in Mr. Burns’ nuke plant in Springfield) but the locals found ways to block that from being built (because it looks too nuclear):<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/Springfield_Nuclear_Power_Plant#:~:text=The%20Springfield%20Nuclear%20Power%20Plant,mainly%20Homer's%20work%20place">https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/Springfield_Nuclear_Power_Plant#:~:text=The%20Springfield%20Nuclear%20Power%20Plant,mainly%20Homer's%20work%20place</a>.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Without that second-phase tower, the natural gas plant was too inefficient and went outta business.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Now we are back to rolling blackouts.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The reason I posted that tweet from the LA mayor: why would anyone need to unplug unused appliances? If they are unused, what difference would it make if they were plugged in?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>spike<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>