<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">It seems to me that a lot of the blame for destruction, by fires like now and in and around L.A., mud slides, sinking real estate (Florida). is caused by the real estate industry and their paid lackeys on zoning boards.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">In short, people are building houses and living in places where a time bomb is going to go off sooner or later,and you can blame climate change and all that, but mostly I think those houses should never have been there to start with.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 1:44 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_-8036001750070978585WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dylan Distasio via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] an unfortunate investment in trees<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">>>…The fires are worse than they might be because the woods are denser than <br>they would be if people had not worked so hard for decades to - guess <br>what - stop fires!<br><br>>>…Can we hope for a policy shift, to tolerate small fires to keep the tree <br>population at a more natural density?<br><br>>>…That would mean more rationality than is typical in public policy.<br><br>-- <br>*\\* Anton Sherwood *\\* <a href="http://www.bendwavy.org" target="_blank">www.bendwavy.org</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">>…It is refreshing to see the real cause and solution proposed on this list instead of the default "Errr climate change." Whether anyone in government learns from what experts have actually proposed as policy is an entirely different story. <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">>…In any case, I hope all affected are staying safe out there! Dylan<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">If you go to the west coast redwood forests and understand what you are looking at (by reading their fire history, study their maps and chronologies) it is easy to see exactly what Anton’s post and Dylan’s is about.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Most touristas come thru the forest at a dead run, hey ma look at the big trees ok saw it done it lets head to Vegas for the REAL fun.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">My ExI friends, don’t do that. If you come out to see the redwood forests, forget Vegas, forget San Francisco, make sure you really see and understand what you saw. Don’t just come to gawk. Come to study. Know what to look for before you get there. Camp, hike, stick around a while, look closely everywhere, notice details, gain understanding not just selfies in front of a giant tree trunk.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">For instance, look at the forest floor in places where they just do hafta fight fires (because of the homes and stuff in there.) Contrast that to places where they have realized that fire has to have its her eventually. Look down, get down on all four if your dignity allows (mine does (or if not, it outranked by my curiosity)) and really examine what is down there as well as what’s up there, because down there is closer and you can learn a lot more, make sure you really see what it was you came all that way to see.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">spike<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></blockquote></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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