<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">OK, I give up. You are taking this seriously and I am not (exceptions at the end). The point is not what is affordable, doable, ,or anything else. It's what people think they are entitled to and do not have now. A high school teacher I know says that the kids now have an incredible sense of entitlement - Uncle Sam will provide.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">One serious example: the right to say anything they want to anyone they want without consequences. Many people, such as high school or college newspaper editors, think they can do that now because it's free speech, isn't it? We, of course, know better.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">Another serious example: should internet access be a right? It is getting hard to function without it. It could be another form of welfare. "provide for the general welfare" - wow. That can mean just about anything.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 7:45 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_-981966209303694827WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal">> <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] Free will was: Everett worlds<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">>…<span style="color:black">Yes - question: why don't you answer the question? If people voted, would they vote themselves a guaranteed income?</span><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hard to say BillW. It leaves the question of who do they vote for to pay that income? You? How? If people voted for a guaranteed income and had to pay for two guaranteed incomes, would that be a good idea? How about three? Five? How many guaranteed incomes can you afford?<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">>…<span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> Free circus tickets?</span><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">We can have that now, if we can find circus people who will work free.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Now that you mention it, you and I do have free circus tickets. The internet is a circus, filled with clowns, acrobats, entertainers, burlesque shows, you name it, it’s there, all free. Thanks for pointing it out however. I had never really thought of the internet as the greatest show on earth, all free, but that’s what it is.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">You and I are two lucky guys to have lived long enough to see it, and to know what it was like before there was a free circus.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">>…<span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> Come down and think about the common person. Rather than their wants, what would people consider their rights? Loosen up, man! bill w</span><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">That’s what I did, BillW. Those rights listed in the graphic are the rights which already existed when that document was written.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">spike<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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