<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">I told Spike, so all of you might as well know: I was diagnosed with heart failure (according to what I read, it's not the congestive sort), and found that I had already had a heart attack some time in the past. I was put on Entresto and a beta blocker. The latter strongly affects my cognitive abilities, and both make me weak and tired even though I am doing nothing. If I cannot get the cardiologist to lower my pills I will do it anyway even if I am less safe by doing so. Quality is more important than just living longer, and I feel worse than I did before starting the pills. My back won't let me do much anyhow and if I cannot just sit and read psychology and other nonfiction and understand it, it is just not the life I want. Just sitting and waiting to die is not my thing.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">I too might exit, but my wife, my children etc. may suffer if I do, so I'll have to really take them into consideration when and if the time comes. I'll know more after Wednesday - first real meeting with the doctor (the one who gave me the pills, and told me nothing, retired). </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">Don't you DARE feel sorry for me. I have had an extremely full and satisfying life, even with the medical problems. bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 11:28 AM Dylan Distasio via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Ending up like this is my worst nightmare. I plan on doing my best to self exit if needed at that point assuming I make it that long. Of course, if I sign up for Alcor at some point, that's an additional wrinkle to smooth out.<div><br></div><div>I'm sorry to hear about your aunt, Bill.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 12:15 PM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Catastrophe? I can imagine that quite a few of the nursing home people were glad to have a way off the planet. A silver lining for the silver-headed. I had an aunt who lived to be 96 and who was blind for the last 20 years. She kept wondering why she couldn't die. She would have welcomed a virus like this one. bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 10:22 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">This is the CDC data for all US deaths from all causes.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">The most recent bar is for the week ending 29 August. They give 10 days before they put the bar on there.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">That last week of August is lowest number of deaths in any week in the last 3.7 years. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><img width="300" height="370" style="width: 3.125in; height: 3.8541in;" id="gmail-m_-6411501640447378804gmail-m_-3967204316312360918gmail-m_3817617257645835701gmail-m_6502257482932581582Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:1748d5d7ecd5b006a1"><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm#dashboard" target="_blank">https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm#dashboard</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">That big Sturgis rally apparently lowered it, but I wouldn’ta thought it would lower it this much: only one part in 700 can be explained that way.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">European nations should have something analogous to this, ja? What is happening over there? We know of the nursing home catastrophe: perhaps covid slew the oldest and sickest, and now there are fewer left alive in those categories. Or… normal flu deaths are down because of extra precautions? Ideas?<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">spike<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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