<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">Bill (as a Rogerian therapist). "Spike, what I hear you saying is that you are experiencing cognitive dissonance resulting from the uncertainties those two subjects bring about in your head."</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">It is quite true that one's prior convictions can taint your theories of new data that don't fit the old theories. Many examples in history show that many people hung onto old theories and rejected new ones - germ theory, for one.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">I am not sure where to go with this from here. bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 10:57 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_624491314472156986WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 25, 2020 8:11 AM<br><b>To:</b> ExI chat list <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> William Flynn Wallace <<a href="mailto:foozler83@gmail.com" target="_blank">foozler83@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] cog bias again<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">>…<span style="color:black">I don't see anything new in the link Spike sent about cognitive biases. Whether their application to evolutionary issues is valid I am not qualified to say. But 'first impressions are lasting' is very old hat. bill </span>w<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">BillW, this take on cog bias is interesting because of two things that are really occupying my mind these days: the LIGO results rocking the cosmology world and the covid data.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">Regarding the covid data, we have plenty of indications that we still really don’t completely understand the mechanisms for the spread of this virus or even how to test for it with high accuracy. From what I understood, that Sturgis even should have been a health catastrophe, which is why I didn’t go and advised friends to stay back, live to ride another day. But the Sturgis event wasn’t a super-spreader. They had close-packed crowds, they had chants and singing (about how great Harley Davidsons are (sheesh (they really do stuff like that (is there any other product like that?)))) they had indoor activities, they have eeeeeverything I should woulda thought would cause a wave like we saw in April… but it didn’t. The epidemiologists don’t understand it either, and reacted with a roaring silence, filled by economists with some hokey algorithm based on… tweets. I see evidence the epidemiologists are unwilling to just take a stand and say we don’t understand everything about why outdoor covid spreading is apparently rare.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">The other thing: the LIGO results just don’t make sense to me. So now… I am digging out old notions I rejected a long time ago, such as… could the dark matter in the universe somehow be black holes formed in big bang, where most of them were collected into galaxies but a lot of them were formed right up front somehow, and oh I am a confused and bewildered geezer right now trying to make sense of that. I have some bigtime cognitive dissonance going on in my head. I don’t see the astronomy community galloping to my rescue on this.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">Perhaps in both cases, cognitive bias is preventing the experts from finding alternatives, and we need some alternatives.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">spike <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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