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On 27/09/2020 06:37, Anton Sherwood wrote:<br>
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2020-9-26 07:04, Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite" style="color: #000000;">The virtual worlds
scenario is much much more likely, I agree. And that can
integrate with uploading too, so I'd expect even when (or if,
for the pessimists) we do crack uploading and it's widely
available, people will still live largely in virtual
environments, wherever they are physically located. And there's
a humongous amount of living room available in the solar system,
even more so when you only need a few cubic millimetres of space
to live in.
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On yet another hand, what if micro-humans lived in the physical
world, "living lightly on the land"? How many could live off the
amount of power consumed by, say, a rabbit?
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I don't understand why that's an 'on the other hand'. Minds need a
substrate to exist in, whether or not they're biological, and
uploads will very likely ultimately need very little physical
resources (ultimately, but not at first, when the technology is
being refined).<br>
I'm envisaging a situation where your mind is running in a substrate
that only occupies a few cubic millimetres, and needs substantially
less energy than a human brain (this is not a superintelligent mind,
just human-equivalent). Whether or not you also control robotic
bodies (which could be any size), you'll still have access to
virtual worlds, so you'd be able to live in both the 'physical
world' and whatever virtual worlds you choose, in whatever
combinations you choose (e.g. various flavours of augmented reality,
etc. You could really blur the distinction between 'virtual' and
'real' until it was pretty much meaningless. That awful film
"Valerian and the city of a thousand planets" gives a partial
glimpse of what I mean). I expect this to be true of all uploads,
whether they stay on earth or not.<br>
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Anton, would you please set your replies up so they don't CC me as
well as posting to the list? I don't need both. Thanks.<br>
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Ben Zaiboc</pre>
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