<div dir="ltr">I agree with you. If I pull my firearm out, it will be followed shortly by the trigger being pulled. I would never pull it out as anything other than a last resort with intent to use it immediately because I had decided myself or my family was in mortal danger with no way to retreat. <div><br></div><div>That said, they also made themselves immediate targets through their ill-advised decision. Their defense is going to be that they believed they were in mortal danger due to the belligerence of the crowd and the fact they had broken a gate and intruded onto private property. My point remains, however, that regardless of it being a dumb move, the decision to charge them is completely political. Missouri has (had) an aggressive castle doctrine, and outside of the current environment, it is hard for me to believe a DA would have brought charges.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 2:06 PM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">The woman in particular was pointing the gun at people. You should never point a gun at someone unless you are ok with killing them and the legal ramifications of that. Idk there's a reason it's illegal.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Plenty of laws are applied or not applied depending on context, so there's nothing special about that. Just saying in general it's stupid to point a gun at someone if you're a lawyer and you aren't in immediate mortal danger</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 15, 2020, 11:55 Dylan Distasio via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">In any other political environment, it is unlikely brandishing charges would have been brought against two people standing ground on their own property after a large band of trespassers had forcibly entered the neighborhood.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 12:43 PM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">It's ridiculous that these lawyers didn't know that pointing guns at people is illegal. And on the other side of the aisle, those two lawyers who threw the molotov at the cop car fucked up real bad too.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 15, 2020, 11:29 SR Ballard via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">I believe brandishing is illegal.<br><br><div dir="ltr">SR</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Oct 15, 2020, at 12:11 PM, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I see that a couple have been indicted on felony charges of waving guns at a protest group on their private road.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Do these laws vary, or do you know what rights gun owners have? (no, not all of them!)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)">bill w</div></div>
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