<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">I wasn't a lousy player, but I wasn't All State BAnd either. My problem all my life has been too many enthusiasms to get really good at anything. I just love to get excited about something new: (hello iPhone 12 Pro Max! and Apple Watch).</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">Are programmers the musicians of the future? Have you ever heard a Yamaha Clavinova? Its ability to duplicate sounds of all the instruments is just amazing ( and mine is over ten years old). I played a 7 foot Yamaha grand piano once and cannot tell the difference between it and my Clavinova. You could make a recording like you describe using only it - no players at all; just someone making keyboard entries. I have not checked out what AI music composers are doing lately, but I read that some of them can write music experts cannot tell from Bach. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">But there is nothing like playing an instrument, even if you cannot play it at world class levels. bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 12:20 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="gmail-m_-4729736087082215729WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>…</b>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat<br><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] zoom creates language weirdness<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">>…<span style="color:black">Spike, that is really great news for an old band boy (bass sax, Sousaphone, trombone - changed because the drunks in the back row at the football stadium kept trying to play my Sousaphone - so I changed to trombone - way easier to carry). Imagination will carry the day. bill </span>w<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">BillW, do extrapolate forward please. We have heard high school choirs and bands. We know the inherent limitations: they usually don’t sound very good. The players haven’t achieved the requisite level of mastery on their instruments.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">But if you have a group with each submitting an audio file which can be edited, and you have a person who knows what she is doing with music editing software, she can make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear. The whole sounds waaay better than the sum of its parts.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">This is particularly relevant to those of us who have been in bands and choirs. We already know that any school group has a few good players. The product doesn’t need to contain every voice and every contributing instrument: the lousy ones don’t need to be used. The good ones can be replicated, modified and superimposed such that the same wav file sounds like two different good players, or arbitrarily many good players.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">The lousy players can imagine their voice is in there, but that illusion is harmless.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">spike<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div><div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></blockquote></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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