<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">plastics - whoever invents biodegradable ones will be superrich - ditto the person who invents a spray we can use on the floating islands of plastic flotsam and jetsam in the Pacific for them to degrade harmlessly -ditto for degradable styrofoam. bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 3:10 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="gmail-m_4727188751385025408WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank">spike@rainier66.com</a> <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank">spike@rainier66.com</a>> <br><b>…</b><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">>…Where I was going with that thought experiment: go one level up. The guy right upstream of the packaging guy is the one who runs the injection molding machine. She is given the mold pieces, usually two for this kind of end product, and mounts them into the device, sets every dial, and hits start. spike<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">OK go one level up again. Someone had to make the mold pieces to give to the technician to mount in the injection molding machine. That to me is the best job of all, because it is a fun interesting inventor’s job. That person must decide what kind of mold would be the right thing and how to design it.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">Whenever I see something like a plastic turkey being used to sell gas grills, I look closely at that plastic device and learn much every time I examine one. I don’t see a replica of a turkey, I see a piece of marketing equipment that must be manufactured in moderately low quantities (perhaps 10 thousand units (because every household doesn’t want a plastic turkey)) and wonder about the manufacturing process to bring it into existence.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">For instance…<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">In 1962, Dustin Hoffman’s character in The Graduate was given the advice to go into plastics. He didn’t want to, thought that would be so boring. It isn’t! That isn’t boring at all. If he took one day or even one hour to look into plastics, he woulda had a great career rather than wasting his talent making movies. OK so I like Dustin Hoffman’s work so he is a special case, but still.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">For instance… you have examples of stuff all over your house made of thermal-setting plastic, nearly all of them acrylonitrile butadiene styrene (ABS) or some chemical close cousin of ABS:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrylonitrile_butadiene_styrene" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrylonitrile_butadiene_styrene</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">which include things like milk jugs and shampoo bottles and that kind of stuff, low cost, easy to make in quantity, durable, etc. Since I named those two ABS examples, pls go examine them right now and tell me what you see. Did you notice the seam? Both of those and anything made of ABS or any injection-molded plastic will always have those seams, and most of the time they are easy to find.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">OK then, what about that seam? And what about the two pieces on either side of that seam please? What did you notice about the seam itself and the two pieces? What does that tell you about how that item was designed?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">spike<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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