<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><div style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:small">I'm in the "college isn't the best option for everyone" camp. It's mandatory for some professions but a waste of time and money for others. Dave</div><div style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:small"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:small"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">Well Dave, this is a straw man argument. Nobody is saying 'everyone'. I'd limit college to those with IQs and other talents</font></div><span class="gmail-im" style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-size:small"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">above average as well as the interest. I had a black guy supporting two families with two jobs and taking a full load. Now that's motivation. Those below 105 IQ or so, depending, should have dropped out of college prep before their senior year. For most of those getting a college degree is just not practical - a two year college program might fit them - at most.</font></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-im" style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-size:small"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><br></font></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-im" style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-size:small"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">College is mostly for thinkers, not doers (excluding many of the tech people who are both). Who goes to college should depend on a very thorough analysis of the person done by competent junior and high school counselors (and there are not nearly enough of those). High school seniors are not mature and still need some guidance. For many, college is a party place where you can figure out who you are and what you want. And it should be FREE!</font></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-im" style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-size:small"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><br></font></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-im" style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-size:small"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">bill w</font></span></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 12:37 PM Dave Sill via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 12:45 PM John Grigg via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">
<p class="MsoNormal"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal">I keep hearing people saying to not bother with college unless you want to become a specific type of professional, but such advice doesn't sit well with me. I would say go, but do your best to not go into debt, or at least keep it well under control.</p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I'm in the "college isn't the best option for everyone" camp. It's mandatory for some professions but a waste of time and money for others.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal"> And I think joining the military to get the G.I. Bill is a good thing for those who want to serve their country.</p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It's more like "serve their government" than "serve their country", IMO. We've got 500 military installations around the globe and we're almost always at war somewhere. These wars don't serve the country, they serve the military/industrial/government complex. But sure, risk your life in some hellhole that is not a threat to the US in exchange for an education.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>On the other hand, while perusing Eventbrite, I came upon a panel where they discussed how certain high tech employers are very concerned that the young stem grads they hire will not know enough about the triad of quantum physics, electrical engineering and computer science, as it relates to the development of quantum computers. Yes, this is a tricky time for even the best and brightest! </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>There's little demand for people trained in quantum computing today because the field is just ready yet. There's apparently one graduate level quantum computing degree program.</div><div><br></div><div>-Dave</div></div></div>
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