<div dir="ltr">Not precisely, no. But it is so unlikely that it is not worth considering, that reviving someone would cost no more than a good meal or other such small expense.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 8:48 AM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I don't think it's possible to assess the monetary price of waking up someone cryogenically in 100 years.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 11:41 AM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">It seems certain that reviving us will be expensive, the kind of "expensive" likely to be done to finally relieve Alcor or its descendant organization from having to keep us frozen.<div><br></div><div>While it is possible we may be forced to labor to pay off debts (despite having prepaid our suspension), that kind of "expensive" can't be paid off with simple slave labor - sex or otherwise. Far more likely is that we will wake up with few or no resources (whoever wakes us up thinking that having done so is a sufficient investment in resources to resolve their obligation to us), akin to the modern homeless, and need to labor to survive. Either way, it is likely that robots will have taken over most menial labor jobs by then, leaving only types of labor that is at least mildly intellectually stimulating.</div><div><br></div><div>Granted, this is not guaranteed - but no situation where you must trust someone else can be. In these cases, the best that can be done is to ensure that the outcome you desire is in the best interests of the one you must trust, and that seems to be the case in this situation.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 7:59 AM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">One of my personal nightmare scenarios is being frozen, having my body stolen in the hundreds-of-years interim, and waking up imprisoned as some kind of fucked up slave, possibly a sex slave.<div><br></div><div>I've never heard anyone talk about this but in my opinion it's a huge issue. You are trusting people with your body, not just to keep it alive, but to keep it safe from interlocutors. How is it possible to guarantee safety over these time periods? Who's to say Alcor doesn't go bankrupt, or suffer a burglary, in 70 years or something?</div><div><br></div><div>Is there any philosophically rigorous solution to this? The only thing I can really think of is some kind of system that would wake you up periodically to check on things and decide if you wanted to stay frozen, but that's likely not possible (at least yet.) Any security can be broken, right? </div></div>
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