<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr">Also consider that there is much variability among psychotherapists. There are therapist variables that effect outcomes that are independent of therapist education level, type of therapy training, sex, age, and experience as a therapist. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Scott Miller studies this and coined the term Supershrinks to describe highly effective elite psychotherapists whose impressive outcomes are undeniable. Dr. Miller concluded these therapists all had some things in common. The good news is these can be cultivated. They are assessing one’s baseline skillset, engaging in deliberate practice to improve those skills, and obtaining ongoing feedback. And there are likely therapist variables that effect outcomes that cannot be cultivated. But he suggests the influence of those is less than the three components Miller discovered. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">You can learn more about this here among other places:</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://deliberatepracticeinpsychotherapy.com/articles-on-therapist-development/">https://deliberatepracticeinpsychotherapy.com/articles-on-therapist-development/</a></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.scottdmiller.com/about-scott/">https://www.scottdmiller.com/about-scott/</a></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-Henry <br><blockquote type="cite">On Dec 4, 2020, at 5:00 PM, spike jones via extropy-chat <extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal">> <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> [ExI] attn" Henry<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">>…<span style="color:black">Yeah, psych does some good. Notice that I did not say that the secretaries and psychiatrists both failed. In fact, both succeeded with some patients. It was only that the doctors did not do better than the secretaries. Same type of study was done with psychoanalysts with the same outcome. Long ago- 60s. All some people need is a good listener and all the stuff one learns in grad school is not needed. bill </span>w<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">Ja and something else occurred to me: the psych doctor’s secretary might likely do better at being an amateur psychologist than the dentist’s secretary. Reasoning: the psychologist and psychiatrist might be more likely to hire the person who has the skillset so familiar to their profession.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">spike<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>extropy-chat mailing list</span><br><span>extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</span><br><span>http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat</span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>