<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">Well Dave, I am just trying to find a group or groups I would find amenable to my beliefs. "What are you politically?" cannot be followed by pages and pages on what I believe on scores of issues. Yes, single words won't ever fit. As Spike's link to the Democrats' tent shows, there is a lot of variation. Whether there is too much to put a single label on I dunno. Taking suggestions. And - there are no neutral parties. All are biased. We just have to keep our BS detection always set at HIGH when dealing with politics. bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 10:54 AM Dave Sill via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 1:56 PM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><a href="https://www.prageru.com/video/left-or-liberal/" target="_blank">https://www.prageru.com/video/left-or-liberal/</a><br></div><div style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I simply did not know. When liberals have been attacked I have defended them. But what I did not know was that it is not the ultraliberals who came up with the ideas I fought - it was the Leftists. </div><div style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Very clear differences. I am most definitely a liberal and not a Leftist.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div> "Left" and "liberal" are labels. Prager is not a neutral party in the use or definition of these labels. Even with universally agreed upon definitions of the terms, which we don't have, a one-dimensional left/right or liberal/conservative spectrum is not sufficient to identify one's political beliefs to anything but the roughest approximation. We shouldn't use vague or misleading labels to identify our beliefs or attempt to apply labels to people that they don't agree with.</div><div><br></div><div>Back in the Usenet days we used geek codes <<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geek_Code" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geek_Code</a>> to summarize our interests/activities/beliefs/skills. Maybe we need something like that.</div><div><br></div><div>-Dave</div></div></div>
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