<div dir="ltr">And if the evidence went the other way - that the chemical & pattern representation of "red" in one human brain was pretty much the same as in other human brains they tested - would you accept that?<div><br></div><div>Because that would seem to be the null/default hypothesis here.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 6:29 PM Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hi Spike,<div>Ohhhhh thaaat! Brilliant!</div><div>Thanks to you explaining this, I just added a new entry to my bucket list: to start training such an abstract AI, before I die (And maybe leave a small portion of my estate for seed money, in my will). Not just leave it to my kids to start it. It really would be nice to have something like that to talk to.</div><div><br></div><div>Now, if at least one experimentalists wold start reporting their results, using more than one abstract word for all things red (i.e. not <a href="https://qualia.insite21.com/survey/1584554976" target="_blank">qualia blind</a>) so they could discover which of all our descriptions of stuff in the brain is a description of my redness I'll be able to make something which can, like me, honestly answer the question: "What is redness like for Brent Allsop?"</div><div><br></div><div>My bet is still that experimentalists will soon demonstrate (by simply not being <a href="https://qualia.insite21.com/survey/1584554976" target="_blank">qualia blind</a>) that my redness is simply a particular physical fact, like it could be that our description of glutamate, reacting in a synapse, is a </div><div>description of Brent Allsop's redness. Demonstrating such would finally falsify all the (what I consider to be 'crap in the gap of our qualia blindness theories') like the predictions that my redness is a "functional fact" or a "spiritual fact".</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 6:48 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><u></u> <u></u></b></p><p class="MsoNormal">> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brent Allsop via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] Microsoft wants to reincarnate people as chatbots<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Spike,<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:16 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><br>I prefer the term "coincarnate" where they bring me over from the living. It would be a fun toy if it works. <u></u><u></u></p></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">>…What do you mean by "bring me over from the living"? Brent<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Brent<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Make one of these digital-mes while I am alive and well to train it. I could be such fine companionship for myself. I could tell me jokes, even do the accents better than I can do them. Consider those text to speech sites: you choose the accent. There’s a bunch of accents I can’t really do. But the software could.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I have been told that any joke with accents is not proper, but I disagree. Certainly Scottish is fair game. Those guys have a sensa huma. Even failing that, this digital me would be great. We would have such fun together.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Tell ya this: I would try to make digital thems of everyone I care about deeply.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">spike<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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