<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"> What is the main argument </span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">against the USA issuing national ID?  Stuart  </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">All I know is that Robert Heinlein said that when nations started issuing ID cards it was time to move on to another country.   bill w</span><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 11:08 PM Stuart LaForge via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
Earlier in this thread, Spike asked if any European countries used  <br>
voting machines. While Italy and the UK do not, it turns out that  <br>
Estonia goes even further and votes over the Internet and apparently  <br>
quite successfully.<br>
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<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_voting_in_Estonia" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_voting_in_Estonia</a><br>
<a href="https://www.ria.ee/en/news/e-voting-too-secure.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ria.ee/en/news/e-voting-too-secure.html</a><br>
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They call their system E-voting and it works because all Estonians  <br>
have national ID smartcards that are tied into a nation-wide public  <br>
key infrastructure. It allows Estonians to remotely verify their  <br>
identity for all manner of transactions including voting.<br>
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Why can't we have something like that? What is the main argument  <br>
against the USA issuing national ID?<br>
<br>
Stuart LaForge<br>
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